by Jay Stevens 

I recently finished The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down, an account of a community of Hmong refugees in central California. It’s a fantastic book and may deserve its own post — especially because Missoula also has a large community of Hmong — but I just want to talk about a chapter and how it relates to our failures in Iraq.

(The Hmong’s presence in Missoula is a fascinating story. A Bitterroot rancher and smoke jumper turned CIA liaison — Jerry Daniels — worked with our Hmong allies in Laos during our “engagements” in Southeast Asia. When the US pulled support for the Hmong after the collapse of Vietnam, Daniels was instrumental in evacuation of as many of the Hmong as possible, real heroic stuff, bought land in Missoula, and helped settle hundreds of refugees in the area.)

The central story of “The Spirit Catches You…” is the conflict a Hmong family has with Western medicine in treating an epileptic daughter. For the Hmong, many of Western medical practices violate traditional beliefs or morality:

…A txiv neeb [Hmong healer] might spend as much as eight hours in a sick person’s home; doctors forced their patients, no matter how weak they were, to come to the hospital, then might spend only twenty minutes at their bedsides. Txiv neebs were polite and never needed to ask questions; doctors asked many rude and intimate questions about patients’ lives, right down to their sexual and excretory habits…Txiv neebs never undressed their patients; doctors asked patients to take off all of their clothes, and sometimes dared to put their fingers inside women’s vaginas….

To add injury to insult, some of the doctors’ procedures actually seemed more likely to threaten their patients’ health than to restore it. Most Hmong believe that the body contains a finite amount of blood that it is unable to replenish, so repeated blood sampling, especially from small children, may be fatal….If the body is cut or disfigured, or if it loses any of its parts, it will remain in a condition of perpetual imbalance, and the damaged person not only will become frequently ill but may be physically incomplete during the next incarnation; so surgery is taboo…

Traditional Hmong medicine involves herbal remedies, ritualistic sacrifice, spirituality; basically a holistic approach, one where mind, body, and spirit are all treated together.

In 1985, Dwight Conquergood worked with an international relief agency in a Hmong refugee camp in Thailand to provide health programs for the residents. He described the Hmong people’s reaction to the Western-style camp hospital:

I heard horror story after horror story from the refugees about people who went to the hospital for treatment, but before being admitted had their spirit-strings cut from their wrists by a nurse because “the strings were unsanitary and carried germs.” Doctors confidently cut off neck-rings that held the life-souls of babies intact. Instead of working in co-operation with the shamans, they did everything to disconfirm them and undermine their authority….The refugees told me that only the very poorest people who had no relatives or resources whatsoever would subject themselves to the camp hospital treatment. To say that the camp hospital was underutilized would be an understatement.

Not only did the staff at the hospital ignore Hmong concerns, many of them were Christian missionaries looking to convert the refugees to Christianity, thus making a trip to the hospital a risk not only to the body, but to the soul, as well.

Basically Western disdain for Hmong tradition and beliefs drove them away from the obvious benefit that Western medicine could provide the refugees. To his credit, Conquergood used Hmong myth and storytelling techniques to convince refugees to use the hospital facilities, once arranging a “parade” of Hmong dressed in traditional costumes to convince people to bring their dogs to the hospital for rabies vacinations.

But Conquergood’s interaction with the Hmong wasn’t just about exploiting their own traditions to get them to use Western medicine. He was also the beneficiary of Hmong medicine:

During Conquergood’s five months in [the refugee camp], he himself was successfully treated with Hmong herbs for diarrhea and a gashed toe. When he contracted dengue fever (for which he also sought conventional medical treatment), txiv neeb informed him that his homesick soul had wandered back to Chicago, and two chickens were sacrificed to expedite its return.

Conquergood’s success, then, with the Hmong refugees was his ability to not only know them and their culture, but actually understand and appreciate it as well:

Conquergood considered his relationship with the Hmong to be a form of barter, “a productive and mutually invigorating dialog, with neither side dominating or winning out.” In his opinion, the physicians and nurses at [the refugee camp] failed to the co-operation of the camp inhabitants because they considered the relationship one-sided, with the Westerners holding all the knowledge. As long as they persisted in this view, Conquergood believed that what the medical establishment was offering would continue to be rejected, since the Hmong would view it not as a gift but as a form of coercion.

Have you ever read a paragraph anywhere that so magnificently sums up the reasons for our gross failures in Iraq? Does not the hubris and narrow-mindedness of the camp’s medical staff exactly mirror our own national rhetoric as we charged into Iraq?


  1. noodly appendage

    “two chickens were sacrificed to expedite its return.”

    the whole noble superstitious primitive thing is grossly overrated by the left and the right.

    I think we should keep our western civilization’s hubris and confidence that the light of science and reason will spread freedom, and remove the chains of superstition under which people have been pursuaded to bind themselves.

    Next time you get sick, sacrifice a chicken and call me in the morning.

    As for Iraq, well isn’t it the chief chicken sacrificer that got us in there? Aren’t the american ayatollahs still supporting the war as a way of hastening the apocalypse? Doesn’t Iran’s chief chicken sacrificer have the same view about the twelfth imam or whatever their version of the mythical antichrist is?

    Wouldn’t we be better off without all that nonsense?

    “Imagine”

  2. It’s only been in the last 50 years or so that Western medicine has become truly useful, with antibiotics and lasers and surgery that actually helps heal people. We have alot to offer other societies, if only we had a little tact.

    Noodly – good points about Iraq, but I don’t think for a second that our leaders, including Bush, suffer from any religious delusions. That’s just a marketing technique.

  3. Yes, Noodly, I do think Western medicine has a lot to offer, and I think my post implied that. And the book does, too. But in order to bring things like medicine and secular democracy to places, you have to converse with them, not dictate terms.

    It should — hopefully — be obvious my slavish dedication to a romantic vision of yeoman democracy, based on rugged individualism and a belief in the inherent goodness of my neighbors.

    But I’m not so naive to think that my ideals are everybody’s.

    While sacrificing chickens is a silly thing, taking a holistic approach to healing is decidedly not. Treating mind and body — and soul, for those who go for that sort of thing — is a good thing, leads to quicker healing. That’s something we can learn from the Hmong…

    Bottom line, we need to understand the cultures where we’re working. You can’t just force our values onto other people.

  4. I just reviewed this book on my blog. I’m going to tell my readers to come read this as well.

  5. Thanks for the link, Marcy. I certainly enjoyed your review and blog…

  6. Paj Yang

    The book “Spirit Catches You and You Fall” is overrated and being used as a scholastic sample by non-Hmong only. It does NOT represent Hmong. Sadly, the author, at time of publishing, does not have a full understanding of Hmong culture and tradition. Unfortunate, information was acquired from individuals who were not able to translate Hmong and English efficiently. I read the book over and again and it’s sad that most of the topics discussed seemed to be interpreted from an individual outside of the Hmong community hearing urban legends and not real meaings of Hmong culture. One cannot claim to know a foreign culture from books and movies and from Hmong who can’t speak English well. Please note that most Asians will not share fully their culture and tradition with other communities. Not the deepest meaning of things anyway. Asian culture(s) is too complex and one has to live in that culture to truely understand it. As a Hmong I hope that this book will not be used as a reference to Hmong culture and tradition. If you want to know who Hmong are, speak to a Hmong who is intellectual and can comminucate well through Hmong and English. Otherwise, there will be a “lost in translatin”.

    The United States fighting in the Middle East is a lost in translation. Or just a lost cause. Americans don’t understand their culture. We only want their oil. I would support if the US government just admit that it is a war for oil and making money for the Bush’s few pals. i can take the truth.

  7. Maly

    Paj, if you don’t want Hmong culture to be misunderstood, make it so that Anne Fadiman’s book isn’t the only cultural reference point. Write a book yourself or encourage another Hmong community member to. Normal Americans aren’t going to take time out of their day to seek out a “Hmong who is intellectual and can communicate well through Hmong and English”. They might (and I stress “might”), however, read a book.

    Also, “Asian culture(s) is too complex”. I’m Lao and I agree that Asian culture is complex . .but so is just about every other culture out there in the world. If a closed culture doesn’t want to be misunderstood, then it has to open itself up, doesn’t it?

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