by jhwygirl
Hypocrisy, now, from the Republican presidential candidate. Thought we only got that from the Bush Administration!
McCain has touted his experience over Obama’s supposed inexperience since it was clear Obama was a force to be reckoned.
So now he picks Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his VP choice. No Washington experience….not much experience at all, frankly. Hell, she won’t even live in the capital, Juneau. Governor of a state that’s under investigation, I guess she looks better than her predecessor.
Gee, that’s just the kind of comparison I’d want to see for my VP choice: The previous governor was very corrupt.
Oh – she’s been a Mayor. Mayor of a town with less than 6,000 people (Wasilla, pop. 5,470). Think Polson (5,046) or Lewistown (5,945).
Palin will be one heartbeat away from the Presidency, and McCain will be 77 in 2012.
Sara Palin will appeal to all, it seems: She looks like an Oprah audience member, she’s the right gender for 51% of the U.S. population and she’s a former beauty queen. Something for everyone, I guess.
Guess we won’t be hearing much about experience anymore.
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August 29, 2008 at 11:34 am
You have to admit that Sarah Palin is pretty hot (remember she was in the Ms. Alaska Pageant) and MUCH BETTER on the eyes than Joe Biden. Oh and wait until you see the bikini pics!!! NOT BAD for a mother of 5.
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August 29, 2008 at 11:53 am
There’s a Palin troll already? Man, the Internets work fast.
August 29, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Wasilla isn’t exactly like Polson or Lewistown–it’s basically a part of the Anchorage metro area.
It’s also not unusual for Alaska governors to reside outside of Juneau. The city isn’t exactly the ideal spot to run anything. There’s no road in/out… rainforest precipitation conditions with ocean fog… sketchy puddle jumper service … and so forth.
It’s a beautiful city, but I think Alaska followed the Ruskies’ folly in picking the southeast as a capital.
(nerdy editor note: the capitol building is in the capital city)
August 29, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Thanks editor – we bloggies miss that kind of thing.
August 29, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Klemz, I want to have your baby.
Call me anytime.
-Paris
August 29, 2008 at 5:23 pm
She started as a small town mayor, but I don’t see any executive experience on BHO’s resume, not even a petty bureaucrat. And he’s got, what, a good speech, as Hilary pointed out?
She’s not from the ivy league, but then, Reagan did well in foreign affairs and the Ivy league pukes we’ve had lately, Bill and Georgie, haven’t impressed me at all. I’m more impressed with the school of hard knocks myself. I’m ready from someone from the west as VP and who’s been touting whom for VP?
and I’m more impressed that she isn’t a chubby cheerleader making faces at the camera kind of governor of a western state.
August 29, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I don’t see any executive experience on John McCain’s resume,
There, goof. I fixed that for you.
August 29, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Obama’s got a good speech. You gotta love that Hillary, she turned a great phrase there.
August 30, 2008 at 7:02 pm
She may not have experience, but by golly she already has her own scandal!
She’s supposed to be deposed soon, and the official report of the investigation (an investigation launched after a unanimous vote by the Alaska Legislature–Republican controlled) is due out 2 days before the election!
Just think: no foreign policy experience (fishing in Canada doesn’t cut it); a political resume thinner than rice paper; a superficial thinker who makes Dan Quayle look erudite; a ‘reformer’ who is under investigation in her very own abuse of power scandal; and, now she gets to spend the entire campaign under a cloud from said investigation.
To top it off, on August 1 this year, she was asked in an interview if she was interested in the VP job, and she answered that she was waiting for someone to tell her just what a VP does!!
Yeah! I give her 3 weeks before she withdraws to ’spend more time with her family’.
August 30, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Obama’s got no executive experience? I’d argue that his campaign is bigger and more complex — and vastly more successful — than anything Palin has run. For all you conservos worshipping Bush Jr as the “CEO president,” you seem to forget that Obama’s campaign has the budget and infrastructure of a Fortune 500. (Half a billion revenue in the past year!)
Obama’s clearly capable of running the government. I’ve no doubt, especially after seeing how the Convention was managed, and how collaborative the Democratic party is this year. This is the real deal.
Of course, arguing about Obama’s experience is like arguing about global warming. The conservatives like to mislead folks into avoiding the issues — where’s Obama’s ideas are clearly superior — or his ability to lead — which is unquestioned, unlike McCain. And frankly, given Palin’s horrific performance at her speech, and the lame and ignorant attempt to appeal to Clinton voters, I have real and serious questions about Palin’s ability. And that’s not even touching her ideology, which, frankly, at first blush appears to be repulsive.
Wasn’t it Goof who has repeatedly decried the ultra-conservative wing of the Christian right? Isn’t it odd how he’s suddenly supportive of her? Seriously, goof, if you want to avoid appearing like a party flack, you should, you know, be consistent. Otherwise you sound like a press release.
August 31, 2008 at 9:30 am
Jay, aren’t you carpetbagging in Pennsylvania now?
If I want to avoid being a party flack, I won’t parrot the democrat or the republican party line like you do, Jay.
August 31, 2008 at 10:03 am
I only briefly comment all the sexism that has flowed out of the “true progressive” side of the democratic party this year, aimed at Hillary and frequently commented on by democratic women who have supported her.We will see plenty of it aimed at Palin…how dare a woman have values not “truly progressive”.
And if you’ve paid attention to what I post here, you’ll note my scorn for those radicals on either side, so far off on a branch that the center looks left or right. It isn’t, it’s the center.
Joe Biden’s got the chops, even if he has some questionable eithics. I don’t think Palin’s ethics are questionable, and yes I’ve read about her attempts to fire her brother in law. I’ll take real world executive experience, and solid ethics, in my vice presidential candidate. The FDR/Truman ticket was my comparison, not some stretch to Judy Martz.
It will be fun to watch the elitist true progressives, who know what’s good for women, for the indigenous, the blue collar worker, attack Palin and her indigenous blue collar husband
One last thing about being non partisan or bi partisan. Bohlinger isn’t the model. Were he truly bi-partisan, he’d support Republicans while running on a democratic party ticket. But he doesn’t. He’d disagree with Schweitzer on Attorney General or US House representative, but he doesn’t. He’d be a leader in the Republicans and not a follower of the demcratic governor, and his credibility would be speaking his point of view in opposition to the governor so when they agree, that brings a higher level of truth to what he says, but he doesn’t.
You can’t have a big tent without tolerance for multiple points of view. I note that Palin signed gay union legislation and expanded on the ‘creationist” statement to say she had no agenda to add that to science curricula or appoint those who support such an idea. She’s taken on the Republican establishment in Alaska. I like that. She appears to follow the constitution rather than her own religious view and I like that.
Sneering at a western governor who speaks her mind and takes on special interests and whose speeches actually have substance seems like something Montanans have little latitude to do.
I supported John McCain in 2000 and will support him here. Why do I share most democrats’ thoughts about the christian right and george bush? Because I saw through George Bush then. I watched the christian right demean and vilify McCain in South Carolina and other primaries. I watched George Bush pander to the establishmentarians by appointing the Anointed Genital, Ashcroft, who anointed himself with oil and went after bare breasts on statues and Oregon’s right to die statute instead of listening to warnings of terrorist activity. I watched those in the Bush administration attempt to “hasten the apocalypse” with their twisted mideast policies based on dispensational premillinialism instead of america’s best interests.
But I don’t have to not like Palin because she’s a christian or shares views I don’t have. She’d got a lot of qualities I’d like to see in a Vice President, the kind of hard working, real american qualities that the democratic party used to value.
August 31, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Palin signed a gay union bill? Are you talking about a bill mandated by the Alaskan Supreme Court that she dislike while simultaneously supporting a constitutional ballot initiative banning extending benefits to partners in gay unions?
She’s far from tolerant, goof. You need to do a little homework. Her brand of politicized religion makes Bush’s seem pale in comparison. He, at least, didn’t try to deny private enterprise from doing stem-cell research. Palin opposes that, too. Bush did try to have certain forms of contraception labeled as forms of abortion; Palin opposes all birth control, even for married couples. This is your enlightened reformer?
Goof, you repeat the accusations of false viral email campaigns against Obama in this blog’s comments daily; how we can trust you to have either the acumen or honesty to be believed about Palin?
As for your malicious branding of progressive politics as intolerant, neither I nor any member of my preferred party and fellow ideologues have advocated forcing others to adhere to my religious beliefs, to legislate who and how to f*ck, campaigned for Constitutional amendments that would limit the application of laws to only those groups that I approve of.
Progressive politics is about treating all equally under the law.
My “intolerance” is only for those who wish to withhold the benefits and rights of our country from those they don’t like. That’s Palin in a nutshell.
August 31, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Goof, you repeat the accusations of false viral email campaigns against Obama in this blog’s comments daily
show me one “false” comment, eh?
August 31, 2008 at 9:39 pm
and I don’t get viral email. I used to get Hillary’s and Edwards’ campaign emails. Do they count?
August 31, 2008 at 9:52 pm
goof- do the wealthy elite that you carry their water for pay you by the word for all this republicspinregurgitation or are you on retainer?
August 31, 2008 at 10:32 pm
problembear, I think you’re in danger of a pwi.
August 31, 2008 at 11:29 pm
don’t know what pwi is goof, but i’m sure some geek will learn me. i did come accross a nice moose carcass today though and ate a lot of red meat so maybe it shows a little. it’s just that you red flag me when you come around here touting superior morals when the party you carry water for has shown nothing but greed, avarice and moral hypocrisy toward the less advantaged in this country. the hypocrisy just gets to me and i can’t control my anger when i see it in your comments.
September 3, 2008 at 9:39 am
I don’t need (or want) to get into the banter – only to make a comment or two.
The main problem I have with the whole politcal process is that too much dirty laundry is overly publicized. The candidates are put under a microscope and every decision, every comment, every move is overly scrutinized and criticized. It keeps those who are probably MORE qualified out of the offices they should be holding.
I applaud John McCain for choosing a controversial running mate knowing her situation (or rather her daughter’s). I applaud Palin for accepting the challenge knowing she and her family will be highly scrutinized.
We talk about experience and where it plays out in the presidency and quite frankly, I don’t see it as important as the character issue. I appreciate a person who can have a backbone and make a decision based on his/her values and beliefs rather than on the “opinion of the day”. People are flaky and it seems that some of the most vocal people are the worst. Do I want the president to make decisions based on them??? Heck NO! Whether or not I like a decision the president makes doesn’t always mean its wrong just because it’s not popular. I believe that character will dictate good decisions better than just experience. I believe the McCain/Palin ticket most reflects that issue for me.
I think if Obama exhibited good character, I would be swayed by the experience issue. However, he has already shown that he cannot be trusted to stick to his word – except the words that come out as lies. Eloquent speaker he may be, but so are cult leaders. It is my opinion that he simply want to win and seems to be willing to compromise anything to do it. Some may see that as good characteristic of a good leader. I see it as a huge weakness.
Yes, I would rather see a president win without compromising his/her character than one who simply wins.
Just my two cents…