don’t give your brain to these people…
by problembear
just in time for halloween!
this is an easy post to make. i raised some hackles of fellow progressive friendlies in my last post about the elections by supporting MT I-105 but the grey falling off flesh and stinking corrupt and gruesomely decayed nature of the zombies in charge of the Montana republican party has this independent voting all democrat this ticket from dog catcher to congress. seems there is not much choice, especially after the party officials recently hired Jake Eaton (political trick and vote tampering specialist who was run out of montana two years ago), to be treasurer of the Republican legislative campaign committee.
also, by standing by and allowing the politics of negativism, obstructionism and downright pure unadulterated and uneducated ignorance of certain tea party activists, including their most racist and homophobic leaders, the republican party has tacitly and very clearly told me that they are ok with it.
i am, like most montanans, completely disgusted by all politicians and most government anymore. in fact, since bush left office my distrust of both parties has grown beyond mere skepticism and taken me to the realization that if this nation is ever going to find its true bearings again we need a third party – a people’s party, to represent the will of the people against the democrats and the republicans who only seem interested in representing big banks, big military business, health insurance companies, payday lenders, and any other trade group offshore or not who is willing to bribe them to vote for their industry.
until a viable third party is formed however, my ticket will be straight democrat all the way, and i urge everyone who believes in fair elections, equality and taking care of our most vulnerable citizens, from social security to children living in poverty, do the same.
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October 30, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I would support a “people’s” party but I am not voting a straight democrat ticket at this point. I will vote for who I believe will do the best job in each race, and in some cases that is a Republican. Just as not all Democrats are slaves to corporate interests (like Baucus) not all Republicans are racist facists or corrupt self servers. There are decent Republicans willing and able to do the job they are elected for – representing the people who elect them. I just wish more of our elected representatives really did represent the people who elect them.
October 30, 2010 at 4:18 pm
i agree that good people are included in my vote ban moorcat, but the zombie like nature and the lock-step orders that any republican candidate must follow make it impossible for me to vote for them. they are ordered to support the decayed and rotting platform of the GOP both nationally and statewide.
October 30, 2010 at 4:27 pm
ah, yes, well, i don’t vote a straight ticket and i think partisan politics, and ballot box lawmaking, are ruining american democracy. so we don’t agree on almost everything, pb.
October 30, 2010 at 4:37 pm
So-called “decent” Republican candidates may not be as obnoxious as total lunatics like Skees, but they vote with them and enable them. They may not seem to be out-and-out racists, homophobes, and anti-woman zealots, but what’s the difference if they vote reluctantly or with hesitation for the same evil policies that the lunatics vote for enthusiastically?
I know it’s considered bad taste to compare extremist tea-baggers with Nazis, but I think we should remember that it was the “good Germans” who let fascism occur in their country in the thirties. You know, some of my best friends are Jews, and I regret the way they’re being treated by this new group of fervid nationalists, but I guess it’s all for the best.
To bring the analogy home, no “decent Republican” would run on a platform that included criminalizing homosexual behavior. Have any condemned it? I didn’t think so.
October 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm
thanks for proving my point, turner.
October 30, 2010 at 8:42 pm
do “decent” democrats support war, torture, corporate bailouts, domestic spying, the patriot act, and extra-judicial assassination of American citizens like Obama?
yeah, party tools on both sides are a waste of time.
October 31, 2010 at 1:56 am
Actually, Turner, quite a few have condemned it – a number of them have gone on record quite publicaly about it. Will it be taken out of the platform? I have no idea (though I am doing what I can to have it removed – including a letter writing campaign and person phone calls to both of my republican representatives). Only time will tell. My issue is that you would paint all conservatives by the worst elements of the Republican party or the Tea party and that is neither fair or accurate. Would you like to me to paint you as a corporate stooge because Baucus is one?
October 30, 2010 at 5:18 pm
a party which is stands by and tacitly accepts support from avowed racists, homophobes and neo white supremists who endorse and encourage violence is hardly what i would call helping our nation’s political climate either goof.
i agree with mr turner. republicans are not known for their rebellious nature when it comes to toting the party line. too many hard fought human rights are at stake in this country to take the chance of voting for anyone who does not stand up and condemn extreme tea party views.
October 30, 2010 at 9:22 pm
as partisan fever reaches its absurd crescendo i would just like to state how much i appreciate the commentary here.
it’s not every day a practical politics from folks on different sides of the political spectrum can find common ground, but it happens here, on occasion, and i think that’s phenomenal.
here’s how i try to look at it: if fiscal conservatism means slashing defense spending i’m all for it. and if libertarians want to end the insane war against drugs and department of homeland security, sign me up. and if progressives believe federal regulatory power can be cleansed of corruption and made to work to protect the people, let’s do it.
campaign tactics on both sides have become ridiculous. there’s nothing more insulting than watching this sad spectacle of reductive, deceitful sloganeering. in politics no one gets out clean.
and the most obscene part is the price tag to paint democrats as evil this, and republicans as evil that is FOUR BILLION DOLLARS.
October 31, 2010 at 8:14 am
My concern, Lizard, is a practical not a theoretical one. What can we do at this time in our history to prevent the rise of fascism?
I think the answer is to vote for Democrats.
Not all Republican candidates and incumbents are fascists (or maybe proto-fascists is a better word). But they cater to and do the work of a very dangerous bunch of folks who want to reverse New Deal and civil rights legislation, punish homosexuals, increase international military adventures, close down governmental regulatory agencies, and make government even more fully subservient to corporations.
Some Democratic candidates and incumbents are promoting this dangerous agenda, but not most of them. Virtually all Republicans, however, are.
And when we look at particular electoral choices, the difference is quite clear: Rehberg caters to these proto-fascists while McDonald doesn’t.
Your view (which is, I think, that both parties have been corrupted by strong institutional forces and that partisanship is futile) can be supported by evidence that confirms your bias. You can make a sort of first-affirmative debater’s argument for it.
But it doesn’t answer the practical question: what do we do, right now in 2010, to prevent a far-right take-over of our country? To retreat to a passive pox-on-both-your-houses position is ethically indefensible.
October 31, 2010 at 8:39 am
i’m not looking forward to republicans taking control of the house, but i bet some democrats are. why? because then democrats will have republicans to blame for why nothing will get done for another two years, and the base will be mobilized for 2012.
that’s the kind of short term political thinking i have divested myself from.
i’m not retreating, turner. what i find “ethically indefensible” is supporting a president who is expanding bombings in pakistan, bombing yemen, expanding covert operations, continuing bush’s policies of torture (what’s happening in Bagram, turner? do you care?) domestic spying, etc.
now you can sit back and say i’m just confirming my bias if that makes you feel better about supporting another american president war criminal, but what you see as confirmation bias i see as the reality of democratic leadership abroad that dem supporters don’t want to acknowledge.
October 31, 2010 at 9:16 am
I’m not prepared to call Obama a war criminal. He’s only been in office a short time and the institutional forces, especially the military-industrial complex, are so entrenched and powerful that he has to move cautiously as he tries to reign them in.
He and other Democrats are working to extricate us from Iraq and Afghanistan. But they’re facing strong opposition from war profiteers and those who view these adventures as holy wars.
I’ve heard the reports about Bagram. To say the least, they’re disquieting. The CIA and contractors that torture people need to be held accountable. And the drone strikes in Pakistan definitely need to be stopped.
Our best hope to end American colonialism is a more progressive Democratic Party (which means withdrawing support from the likes of Max Baucus). The other party, with its blind worship of the military and its commitment to corporate interests, wants to expand the neo-cons’ program of jack-boot world domination.
They’re the real war criminals.
Obama can’t tilt at all the windmills simultaneously. He’s been too willing to compromise, I think, but he’s moving as quickly as he can in the right direction.
October 31, 2010 at 10:03 am
turner, it’s clear you have an almost religious faith in the noble intentions of your party. the problem with critics like myself is we look at actions. magical thinking that excuses Obama for transgressions Bush would have been blasted for is just plain delusional.
if you were capable of taking a hard look at the actions of this administration you would see Bush’s insanity has been enshrined. neocons will never be held accountable for what they’ve done to this country because Obama won’t (or can’t) use his political power to address the fascist trajectory we are still following.
blackwater is still getting our tax money. people are still being tortured. the FBI is surveilling peace activists. and documents released by Wikileaks, which of course Obama must condemn, exposes for anyone who gives a shit how reckless the war machine has become.
is the GOP preferable? hell no. are they successfully running on our national disillusionment with the Obama administration? we’ll see in two days.
October 31, 2010 at 9:27 am
One more thing, Lizard. Obama isn’t running this year. He needs either to change his polices in the middle east or pay the price in 2012.
October 31, 2010 at 10:34 am
Not sure what vote is right: the one for rich Democrat, or the one for rich Republican. For me that’s where it all goes wrong–the seven or eight-figure (or more) movers and players that have more money on hand than most of us will ever see.
November 1, 2010 at 1:42 am
The only problem is that you have to have six to seven figures to even think about running. Hell a STATE level election this year hit six figures.