triage: animals vs people
by problembear
as usual, i am curious about something….
take a look at these two links and tell me if we have our priorities right here?
1. this outfit as described in today’s missoulian and all over our television news lately has needed much help this winter and the entire sorry episode has been getting a lot of media play lately – not to mention full use of our fairgrounds as provided by mr earle.
“When we heard about this we basically put our arms out and told them we would do everything we can to help,” Earle said.
now, just like everyone else, i saw the footage of the burros with misshapen hooves and animals who have been neglected for far too long and of course, nobody wants to see an animal starve to death and i know that the mission of the people involved was good-hearted and all but, for god sakes -give me someone who can provide proper logistics and sustainable plans over a bunch of dreamers and feel gooders who collect discarded animals from all over the united states, and then fail to care properly for them when times get rough and then, at the worst possible time of year, drop them in our laps in the middle of a dead cold winter…..
when …..
2. shelters for the homeless are seeing unprecedented numbers of people living on the streets and not enough beds to provide shelter from below zero wind chills which are on the way as i type this. media wise, the coverage of the local homeless plight has been miniscule by comparison to the plight of the failure of this animal sanctuary.
someone needs to figure out what is important here. it is certainly unfortunate that over a thousand animals were in dire straits but we really need to regain some good old-fashioned common sense and realize that homeless americans need our attention during this cold snap in the middle of our protracted recession…..
UPDATE: yet Gallatin county manages to provide some temporary emergency shelter for their homeless…
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December 29, 2010 at 11:39 pm
transients are parasites and the pov is a magnet for pests. it’s a nest for sex offenders and the lazy panhandling kings of Missoula. if only these undesirables could be kicked down the road, then the good citizens of this still slowly gentrifying mountain town would be free to buy their responsible booze at Grizzle Liquor and revel in the retail heaven of downtown, unmolested.
December 29, 2010 at 11:41 pm
‘Man bites dog’ isn’t a news story because we care more about dogs than people.
You’re right, of course, about the priorities.
December 30, 2010 at 12:55 am
Maybe the county hopped right to it for animals, not humans, because it is Barbara Evans’ daughter who runs AniMeals. Just a thought.
December 30, 2010 at 6:46 am
really. interesting.
December 30, 2010 at 7:30 am
What many people don’t realize is the county used to be far more hands-on involved in the care of its needy. All counties, actually.
Here in Missoula, the Rattlesnake area housed The Poor Farm which took care of the area’s poor and homeless and orphans. The county was the primary funding source from the late 1800′s to the 1940′s. For those here in town, they also paid the sheriff – who ran the jail – 25 cents a night to house those that came to town indignant or in need of emergency housing.
And yes, as there were a bevvy of bars and prostitution houses (the Northside a collective of interesting bordello’s) there were plenty of “those people”.
The point is, all societies have had homeless and poor people to deal with since the beginning of social interaction. I can damned well guarantee you that the Romans had homeless people…and since they were pretty war-oriented, I also guarantee that a whole bunch of them were veterans.
But I’m also willing to bet you that they didn’t allow their veterans to die on the streets or under the Reserve Street bridge in their tent.
As state Representative-elect Ellie Hill often reminds us via her twitter feed, many of the people that seek The Pov’s assistance are families and homeless children. And veterans, of course.
Think about what happens to a homeless teen for a moment.
This is our society. How do we want to live in it? It’s quality of life for all – even those whiners who’d like it if ‘they’ could all disappear.
December 30, 2010 at 11:12 am
I guess the real benefit of the coming Ice Age is the eventual migration of homeless to the warmer climates in the south.
December 30, 2010 at 11:35 am
A 6-year old couldn’t have done better….
December 30, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Food for thought, and worth discussing.
But remember: people are able to take action to change their circumstances. Not always easy, of course, but the fact remains that humans can take charge of their own destiny. Animals, on the other hand, can’t – or at least not animals in this situation.
We’re wired to “care” about animals in distress – just as we are wired to care for people in distress. We all want to help people that are in distress – but the level of distress displayed in homeless people is often not “immediate,” at least not superficially or at first glance.
Not claiming that animals > people…quite the contrary. But “helpless” animals tug at heartstrings faster and stronger than people who are in semi-dire straits, because most people figure that the “homeless” are in such a state either (a) by their own choosing, (b) via their own poor decisions, or (c) only temporarily and are able to rise out of their situation.
December 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm
wow, david, such insightful words. sounds like you know a lot about homelessness.
but tell me, david, where does someone with mental illness fall in your litte a,b,c breakdown of why people are homeless? did they choose to be mentally ill? no. did they become mentally ill because of poor decisions? no. and are they only temporarily mentally ill? no.
well, david, it doesn’t sound like you know much about homelessness after all.
December 30, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Wow lizard19 – sounds like you are being unnecessarily snarky about my comment.
I never claimed to be an authority on homelessness, nor did I say that it was right, better, or otherwise appropriate to place homeless animals above homeless people – or vice versa. Nor did I say anything about mental illness or how it relates to homelessness.
If you had been paying attention, lizard19, you would have noticed that I was only speculating on possible reason(s) that animals seem to get so much more sympathy and offers of assistance and media play.
December 30, 2010 at 4:21 pm
i did get your drift david and i think you raise some interesting points about why people sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the needs people have in the world and simply turn to animals as a more comfortable way to give of themselves.
the truth is any type of giving toward others (animals or people) is commendable. i am not so much asking this question about individuals but am curious about the reasoning of our elected and staff county representatives in control of the fairgrounds. why do they pull out all the stops for this defunct sanctuary while ignoring the plight of the homeless stacked like cordwood in the poverello each night?
is this quick response for llamas representative of the prioritization going on in mr carey’s mind? do we really want public resources being triaged toward animals before people?
December 30, 2010 at 5:45 pm
you didn’t deserve that response, david. i apologize.
December 30, 2010 at 2:58 pm
This is pretty funny.. People vs Animals
You here more about Animals because they can’t speek for them selfs, nor can they help them self’s… You dn’t see a animals standing on the street corner asking for help..Witch to me is pretty funny to see people doing it also… Way because most of the time when I see some one asking or Begging for help they have a dog laying next to them and I’ll see a help wonted sigh in a Mc D’s..or some other place..it seems people for the most part wont the easy way out..and not wont to work for it.. or give up to easy. Yes I’m sure there’s lot’s of people Homless and I’m sure They all should be helped before we worry about a bunch of Animals. But thouse who worry about he animals have home’s and dn’t worry about the other’s that dn’t. Our country speeds Trellions on other countrys.. Our they worrying about there Animals…??? Nope! We are Amarica… We get to deside what we wont to worry about… It goe’s way farthere then People vs Animals… Witch people do we worry about.. the poor guy that jsut lost he’s job or that Dope head, hooker,that only care about the next fix.. Don’t know of any animals hooked on drugs, or that are robben people, So withch homless do we worry about????
December 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm
This comment belongs in the Trolling Hall of Fame.
December 31, 2010 at 3:25 pm
+1 to Rob
December 30, 2010 at 4:15 pm
The good thing about charity, is that people get to pick the ones they donate to. It could as easily be “we care more about (poetry, art, music, museums, literature) than homeless”. Why does breast cancer research raise more money than prostate cancer research? Do we care more about women than men?
Many people will have read the Bozeman Daily Chronicle’s article about Ruthie, who’s hitch-hiked across the country 17 times, calls Bozeman “Mayberry”, doesn’t want to work for (the man) “the factory”, or be a “stepford wife” and instead likes getting a free motel room and wifi so she can update her blog on her free Sony laptop. She thinks that, instead of going on to Oregon, she’ll settle in Bozeman and “help get Bozeman a decent shelter” but it’s “not right” that she had to camp out at the rest area when nobody would pick her up in Bozeman. It didn’t even have Wi-Fi!
These readers might conclude that they’re getting up everyday and working for “the factory” and while it’s not as cool as getting free wifi, mountain dew and rent, it’s laudable in that they support themselves and their families, and that people who scorn their lives really might not be worthy of their charity.
Then they can come on here and read what heartless scumbags they are from lizard.
December 30, 2010 at 4:36 pm
missoula county is expending resources here in opening up the fairgrounds to help these animals, so my curiosity is more about what drives the decision to step in immediately to help a charitable organization deal with a defunct animal sanctuary when the poverello has asked for support to increase beds for homeless families and individuals caught in a deep recession?
i have seen no such response from the county when the poverello asks for increasing their capacity to help the homeless during a protracted recession.
btw/i agree with you that lizard does not help the homeless plight with the bitterness he is showing. might want to dial it way back a notch there liz. many people are busy working too hard to pay much attention to the issue and they do not have the amount of experience or knowledge that you have in dealing with it. have a little patience for people and let them have a chance to discuss the issue with all of us and learn more before laying into them.
i would rather not stifle discussion on this huge issue and if we are arrogant and condescending toward people we do not help those who need others to reach out to them.
December 30, 2010 at 5:27 pm
preaching temperance are we? that’s funny.
December 30, 2010 at 5:41 pm
i agree. it is pretty funny.
i guess it just seemed like it was finally hitting home to me that the madder i got about stuff the less it helped.
we bears really aren’t very smart. but we are curious.
December 30, 2010 at 5:47 pm
you make a valid point, pbear.
December 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm
mr. b, i don’t think you’re a heartless scumbag.
December 30, 2010 at 4:45 pm
“Animals vs. people” –what an unfortunate mindset. There is no “versus” here, just two populations of beings, both in need of help and compassion. Why must it be seen as taking something away from one to help the other? Last time I looked, compassion was not a finite commodity.
The fairgrounds is already set up to accommodate large numbers of animals in barns, stalls, etc. Why would you begrudge this to creatures in an emergency situation and already at the mercy of humans?
Perhaps you could meet with the county and the fair manager and ask why a heated exhibition hall or the like can’t be used to accommodate humans in need, and then volunteer to staff it…instead of setting up a false dichotomy to blog about. I contribute to the food bank, and was at the Pov on Xmas eve with a donation. I’m heavily involved in animal issues. I don’t need to look at human needs and animal needs in terms of “versus” or either/or–I care about both, and I’m not alone. Thank heavens there are so many people of good conscience who act on their beliefs, whether for people, for animals, for the environment–whatever. To say that someone else’s priority is misguided strikes me as a small-minded attitude. It takes all of us to spread care and compassion in all directions.
December 30, 2010 at 5:05 pm
good point pronghorn. perhaps both neglected and homeless animals AND neglected and homeless people should get equal attention from our county representatives in charge of our fairgrounds resources which sit empty most of the winter.
since you are an advocate for animals as well, what do you think about some official oversight by the state of montana regarding these animal sanctuaries? it seems like a periodic inspection by someone could have given these animals a better chance to avoid neglect and suffering and maybe with some warning, everyone could have had a chance to step in and help before this got so bad at a particularly bad time of year. what say you? should a state legislator investigate some type of legislative solution to avoid similar circumstances where good hearted people get themselves in over their heads by taking in too many animals to care for adequately?
December 31, 2010 at 11:39 am
My first thought, upon reading the very first article about the now-defunct sanctuary, was just that–looks like some regulation–or at least oversight– of sanctuaries is called for. By what criteria? If they are registered nonprofits? or if they have over x number of animals? And then, a regulation that’s on the books? an oversight or review board made up of veterinarians and accountants? I don’t know. Animal life is not particularly valued in and of itself in Montana culture (except to profit by), and good-hearted volunteers usually always come to the rescue, aided by the good-hearted public with donations, so one has to wonder if sufficient motivation would exist to set up regulatory oversight. Not to mention that other even more obscure hoarding situations would still probably fall through the cracks, not that this is reason enough to dismiss the possibility of regulation. Just thinking out loud here.
December 31, 2010 at 12:11 pm
those are tough questions. wonder if maybe a private system of self-regulation might be better – perhaps a trade organization could be started that rates animal sanctuaries much like animal breeders use?
maybe it would help to rein in some of the people who might tend to go off the deep end in this business.
it would be a good thing to discuss though and maybe gather more information. i would love to hear from a legislator who might we willing to look into setting something up for the upcoming session to look into it at least- maybe just a panel of experts to discuss this?
December 30, 2010 at 5:26 pm
yes, i have a short fuse on this subject because so much of the conversation is based on anecdotal evidence, misconceptions, media-hype, and flat out hate, that i don’t always respond in a constructive manner that furthers constructive dialogue.
one of my problems is i still read the goddamn comments at the goddamn Missoulian, and literally any time there is violence downtown someone brings up the Poverello Center, Missoula’s favorite scapegoat.
then, two days ago on montana public radio, there was a brief piece on the drop-in center reopening at the Pov’s main facility, and Ellie was interviewed about that and the struggle to relocate to a more appropriate facility. and guess who provided the opposing view point? Doug Zimmerman, owner of Grizzly Liquor.
apparently Doug has no shame or sense of accountability, because he had the galling audacity to say that bums and drunks are killing downtown business and should be kicked out of town. remember, this is coming from a guy who MAKES MONEY selling booze to drunks.
alcohol abuse is a huge underlying factor in homelessness, so when someone who makes a living selling a drug that causes so much damage to people’s lives publicly opposes a homeless shelter’s attempt to relocate to better deal with problems he is helping to create, well, that makes me very, very angry.
December 30, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Then one might say that you respond in a destructive manner that fosters destructive dialogue. Just suggesting …
December 31, 2010 at 11:51 am
hmmm, i seem to remember your eloquent retort to a recent comment of mine. i believe the word you chose was “bullshit.”
and because you bring your obnoxious feud with Mrk here so often, i’m going to have a difficult time taking any critique from you about my “dialogue” seriously.
December 31, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Your skills at observation appear to be lacking a bit. For one, you might want to notice that I simply restated what you yourself wrote of your commenting. Two, “Bullshit” is the colloquial for a falsehood. If your comment was bullshit, and it was, then maybe destruction was exactly what was called for. One would think an aficionado of poetry might understand such things. After all, you’ve written about them yourself. Perhaps you’d favor a sonnet the next time you spread falsehoods? Three, and this is the delicious one, I have quite vocally and publicly avoided enabling Mark’s delusions about me here. That you haven’t noticed that speaks far more about you than me. After all, this is your website, Liz. Not mine. Maybe you should pay attention a little bit more.
December 31, 2010 at 5:04 pm
So, your fee-fees were hurt? Okay.
It seems you aren’t very observant, Liz. One, “Bullshit” is the colloquial expression for a falsehood. As an aficionado of poetry, one would think you’d respect such expressions, but perhaps not when you’re the one foisting the lie. Then, apparently, it’s all about civility with you, the greatest lie of all. As you yourself have complained (but stop from actually arguing) some destruction is necessary to defeat lies, wouldn’t you agree? Two, my comment above was a rather simple restatement of what you yourself had just said, without the CYA. Take it seriously or not. I don’t care; it’s not my website. Strange how you seem to have not noticed that it is yours. Three, I have vocally and publicly gone out of my way to avoid bringing Mark’s delusions to bear here at the website you forget is yours. You didn’t notice, and you hardly care if it gives you some Ad Hominem ammo to use against someone you *feel* disagrees with your August Self. So please do tell how seriously you will take others while you wallow in fantasy.
December 30, 2010 at 5:42 pm
understood.
December 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Great post and interesting dialogue.
Pronghorn, we did reach out to the County to house homeless individuals seeking shelter during the winter. The request was never meant to provide a long term solution, only to provide safe emergency shelter this winter when the number of individuals and families seeking shelter placed our downtown facility over the legal fire code. (We were over fire code 36 nights last winter.)
The Missoulian covered it here: http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_f8fc7808-dbfe-11df-bf8d-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story
As you can see, the County wasn’t exactly thrilled with the notion that homeless individuals and families take up shelter in one of their buildings. (Don’t read the comments, they’re hateful and awful.) I think this is what Problembear’s post is reflecting upon, not rooting castaway humans against castaway animals. My heart breaks from those animals, and I can honestly say the Poverello Center’s board and staff have heard from hundreds of Missoulians who share P-bear’s observations and frustrations.
Some of the comments shared in this dialogue are very common misperceptions and it’s okay. The cool thing about this blog is that folks are generally interested in engaging in solution oriented dialogue. It’s refreshing and commendable.
One of the disparities that hits homes the hardest at the Pov stems from these same misperceptions about our poor. Lizard’s reaction, I think, is due to my shared sense that these misperceptions about our poor continue to be (unfortunately) perpetuated by a few in the media, and then these misperceptions become inflamed by small but vocal bigots, and these untruths can turn into danger and real hate towards vulnerable people. (Clay Salcido being one of the most tragic, recent examples.) The undeniable reality is that there is a hierarchy to the poor in our community. To some, the Pov is seen as serving the bottom of the barrel… the least desirable and the UNWORTHY.
What’s also not okay about these misperceptions is to allow them to continue to effect leadership decisions in our community. Missoula’s homeless individuals and families are worthy of safe, handicap accessible, shelter. Nobody’s trying to build anything bigger, just safer, and with the square footage to serve the ones we already got, without discriminating against the ones with mental illnesses and addictions. When Jesus talked about our obligation to serve the “least among us”, He didn’t say, “except those individuals with missing teeth or who smell bad.”
The bottoms line is that the Pov’s downtown soup kitchen and emergency shelter, the Valor House, the Joseph Residence, and the Salcido Center are serving hundreds of homeless and impoverished individuals and families EACH DAY, 24 hours a day. In my five year tenure, I have only met one man who was “riding the rails”, and I know very, very few who have chosen a lifestyle centered on being chronically homeless.
The REAL reality of your homeless population is that they represent the diversity of all hurting Missoulians. The faces of the Poverello Center are veterans, the mentally ill, the addicted, victims of violence or generational poverty, individuals discharged from Warm Springs or recent incarceration, individuals discharged from St. Patrick Hospital, former Youth Homes kids, the elderly, the widowed, the result of medical bankruptcy, and they included 8,420 families with children last year alone.
My final two cents, is that the root of these misperceptions is one the reasons the U.S. is where it is now, because in the United State of America, too many people have been brainwashed to believe that he who dies with the most toys wins, and that you should be ashamed if you’re poor or sick or weak. The belief that you’re only homeless because “you haven’t pulled yourself up by your bootstraps” in “this great land of opportunity” is just flat out false, and to perpetuate it irresponsible and dangerous.
December 30, 2010 at 7:35 pm
P.S. Apologies for the excessive use of punctuation in the last post… I was firing off commas like a jackhammer, and there is no edit option. Damn!
December 31, 2010 at 10:16 am
I don’t understand why we are trying downplay the proposed expansion of the Pov .
The current capacity of 70 is less than a proposed capacity of 160 and therefore would be an expansion of The Pov served clientele regardless of square footage of the building.
If there is a need to double the capacity of the Pov let’s just have an honest discussion and deal with it.
December 31, 2010 at 10:39 am
chuck- i guess i don’t catch your meaning here. the post was about the missoula county fairgrounds providing shelter for animals from a defunct animal sanctuary (which is fine) but no such offer seems to be available to our overflow homeless during a cold snap.
what you are talking about is ongoing and will take a long time to find results.
the need is more immediate now because we are at sub-zero temperatures, so i was simply asking our missoula county officials why there is no such contingency plan in place to get people out of the cold temporarily at least.
bozeman managed to do it… http://www.kbzk.com/news/gallatin-county-fairgrounds-to-open-temporary-homeless-shelter-during-cold-snap/
nobody is “downplaying” an obvious need. i am simply trying to get some answers from steve earle, bill carey, michelle landquist and that other woman who sits on our county commission who seems to have no interest in even discussing a simple thing like emergency contingency plans for providing life sustaining shelter to people without homes in an arctic blast.
yet, everyone seems to pull out all the stops to save animals. btw- i do agree with pronghorn that there is plenty of compassion in this community to provide for both animals and humans. it seems to me however that the ones who are triaging this by excluding people are our county officials.
December 31, 2010 at 3:17 pm
“I just think, our community, with the people that we have here, they take better care of their dogs than they take of their people,” Prester said.
Unfortunately, the people vs dogs issue is in the public discussion in the Gallatin, too.
December 31, 2010 at 11:24 am
Chuck, I don’t think you will find anyone with a soul who does not agree that Missoula needs a new facility to meet the needs of its poor people. That’s not the point of this post. The Pov sleeps people on the floors and in the hallways one-third of the year now (not just during the winter), and was over fire code capacity on 36 nights last year.
My question: Where did you hear that we were proposing to build a facility with a “capacity of 160″. Specifically, where did you get that information? I am continually frustrated by the false information swirling. We are only looking to serve the number of homeless people we are currently serving, we are not looking to “expand” (as you have said above). We just don’t want to violate the fire code. We hope to get people off the floors. We have looked at more than ten locations, focused on a few, but we are still looking to build more community consensus, and we have not narrowed anything down to the specifics you are referring.
December 31, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Ellie ,
I think it was the Missoulian.
Thanks for your work and Happy New Year.
December 31, 2010 at 7:25 pm
The below Missoulian article somehow seems pretty relevant to our discussion here…I hope y’all will read it.
http://missoulian.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/religion/article_c514f90e-1527-11e0-8d0f-001cc4c002e0.html
Happy New Year, to one and all, on the 4 and 20 blogosphere!
January 1, 2011 at 10:59 am
Only on rare occasions do I rate my own comments.
January 1, 2011 at 11:19 am
well, since the point of this post was to posit a question toward our county officials and it appears that no answer is forthcoming from anyone associated with the county on the question of priorities regarding homeless animals and homeless people, i would like to take this opportunity to thank the community and the people of missoula who have been generous in supporting the many causes here who attempt to alleviate the suffering of both animals and people.
it is heart-warming to see how missoulians really care about those who are less fortunate.
here is hoping that our county commissioners can find the courage to reflect the goodness of the community they serve and provide the leadership that we elected them for.
January 1, 2011 at 11:26 am
I had a couple of questions before I sign off on “those damn county commissioners” even if my natural opinion towards “county commissioners” is … er, well, I won’t go there.
Were they asked?
Are they the decision makers, or is there a fair board?
Would any of the buildings meet code for the use you’re proposing?
January 1, 2011 at 12:05 pm
goof- i think ruthie pointed out where they were asked. and it seems from the tone of the article, the county commission wasn’t even interested in discussing formulating a contingency plan in case the need should arise.
as far as your question about decision-making, the fair board was disbanded for dysfuncionality some time back. we paid a lot of money to get rid of an executive director who exhibited a dysfunction regarding his ability to relate with women, and since then, i only know of steve earle as the sole decision-maker for the fairgrounds.
the third question appears to not be an issue or i am sure michelle landquist would have cited it in her list of excuses that appear to be designed to enable her to ignore the poverello’s request.
January 1, 2011 at 11:36 am
Mr. Benson — Apparently, yes, the county HAS been asked, according to this comment and link to the Missoulian’s coverage of that request … .
That previous comment here:
Ellie Hill says:
December 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Great post and interesting dialogue.
Pronghorn, we did reach out to the County to house homeless individuals seeking shelter during the winter. The request was never meant to provide a long term solution, only to provide safe emergency shelter this winter when the number of individuals and families seeking shelter placed our downtown facility over the legal fire code. (We were over fire code 36 nights last winter.)
The Missoulian covered it here: http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_f8fc7808-dbfe-11df-bf8d-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story
January 1, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Re: Missoula fair board, now defunct … Just this past week or so, Missoulian ran a story (sorry, haven’t located link, yet) on the newly created and appointed “fairgrounds advisory council.” Sounds like a fair board, eh? Missoula County CAO Bickell (I think that’s his title) made a point of stating it is NOT a fair board. Rather, it is an advisory council to help direct the USE and future of the entire fairgrounds, not just the Western Montana Fair.
Interestingly, no mention was made of WHO has been appointed or for how long they will rule or how they were chosen. (Although maybe I just don’t remember … Damn! Where is that link?!) Also no mention of using it to protect safety of homeless people or animals, that I recall.
This newly created arm of government that I believe is made up of nongovernment residents seems potentially like a way for Bickell, Missoula County and commissioners to absolve themselves of decisionmaking responsibility and blame regarding use of our fairgrounds.
It is embarrassing that Bozeman so quickly stepped up to do the right thing for homeless in winter and Missoula County sits on its hands. For former Food Bank leader Bill Carey to be a part of ignoring this issue is especially troubling. He seems like a person of good intentions … Though often ineffectual.
January 1, 2011 at 1:28 pm
How we couldn’t get anyone to even challenge him – on either side of the aisle – is astounding.
Ugh. 6 more years.
January 1, 2011 at 2:05 pm
The link to the advisory board story is here
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/article_955e6100-130b-11e0-9ad3-001cc4c03286.html