Drop Your Cocks & Grab Your socks! Join Your Local Home Guard Unit Today

By CFS

The crazy seems to be piling up at the State House here in Montana.  The most recent example to bubble up in a legislative committee is Rep. Wendy Warburton’s HB 278.  The bill would authorize the organization of local militia “Home Guard” units that would serve as,” a volunteer community service apparatus in Montana to fill the gap between community service organizations, such as a neighborhood watch program and the Montana national guard, and to provide the state and its local communities with the ability to call upon trained and  organized volunteers when necessary resources are otherwise unavailable.”  Is this bill likely to pass, i doubt it… Wendy has a track record of sponsoring bills that go nowhere, but there is the distinct possibility that these are the types of laws that will get passed in 2013 if the wave of Tea Party angst continues to drive the political debate and election wins for ultra-conservatives.

First, I feel the need to explain a little background on the bill’s primary sponsor, Ms. Warburton so that we can all understand where she is coming from with this.  As with a lot of state legislators, not many people probably know her background or have even really heard her name outside of Havre.  Wendy graduated from Liberty University; otherwise known as Jerry Falwell’s baby.  The university’s website proclaims itself, “the largest and fastest growing Christian Evangelical university in the world,” which is kind of like saying your the handsomest man in a leper colony.  I guess Montana’s own educational system was too pagan and full of socialists for a sweet hometown girl from Malta.

After graduation she quickly found her way into politics via marketing and communications, eventually working for the Friends of Conrad Burns in 2006.  According to Project Vote Smart she is a member of the NRA, the Eagle Forum – a pro-family movement, e.i. lets take away a women’s right to choose and put her back in the role of homemaker – and Gary Marbut’s Montana Shooting Sports Association.  In 2009 she sponsored a bill that would let healthcare providers deny service to a patient because of a healthcare provider’s conscience and voted against the children’s health insurance program.  Also, 6/8 of the bills she sponsored in 2009 died in committee, so the ROI for Havre has been pretty dismal.  Essentially she is the perfect born and bred Tea Partier; God, family, country, and guns are her platforms.

Back to the issue at hand…

Warburton is quoted in a Missoulian article as saying, “Really the bill is just about local volunteers being prepared in case of emergency to support the National Guard, support the sheriff, support the governor as needed,” and is not about “arming citizens.”

I understand the point of not “arming citizens,” this is after all Montana… even a lefty like me owns a small collection of firearms.  To me this sounds more like a move to legalize local paramilitary groups and invest them with some level of authority.  The home guards would answer only to the governor and a county’s sheriff – an idea which sounds closely linked to the sheriff first movement – and while they could cooperate with Federal authorities, they would not be allowed to take orders from Federal officials.  Other than monthly reports filed with the governor, there is little oversight of these proposed militias, rather a most decision-making and oversight authority would be bestowed with a company’s captain; allowing a captain to choose recruits, how to organize the militia, what training they receive, etc.  Its a bill that if passed aims to wait till these Tea Baggers get one of their own in as governor and then they can bestow legal status on their friends in the Militia of Montana and other anti-government groups.

Additionally, if the purpose of the bill is not to ‘arm citizens” but to provide a locally organized unit that can perform support functions during emergencies, then why is the first unit type listed an infantry company?  An infantry company’s main role, if I’m not mistaken, is to engage  a potential enemy using deadly force.  An infantry company is not a support unit, rather the tip of the spear.  Also, Section 26 explicitly states that a local Home Guard unit MUST be armed and authorizes the governor to give a Home Guard unit access to state armories.  So yes, this bill is explicitly about arming local militia units.

The original draft of the bill even went so far as to authorize a militia home guard with the power to draft citizens into a unit.  That’s right, Section 23 originally allowed for the drafting of members into militia service.  Something the federal Armed Services doesn’t even do because of the political thorniness of a draft was a thing that Wendy Warbuton thought was a good idea for a bunch of semi-autonomous militias to undertake .  Smart move removing that little morsel… just picture a jackbooted militia member forcibly drafting an unsuspecting citizen during a “time of emergency.”

With all this criticism I actually hope that the bill passes… that way I can start my own Infantry Company in Missoula… a.k.a Missoula Infantry Company 420… a.k.a The Missoula Sativa  Rollers. When the Rapture comes in 2012 and just us sinners are left to our own devices here on earth, Missoula – under my guidance of course – will be prepared to invade the hinterlands of Western Montana and control what remains of all east/west trading in our small part of the country.

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  1. ruthie

    Good post — thanks for keeping on top of some of the idiotic time-wasters that take attention away from jobs, seniors, skyrocketing property taxes! One quibble — Please don’t get sucked into using a right-wing-generated term. Eagle Forum calls ITSELF “pro-family.” More accurate, they are an anti-choice organization.

  2. …it’s true. We’re seeing black helicopters in the Capitol daily. I think they are mostly looking for a single Republican legislator with an actual jobs bill.

    • Pogo Possum

      With all respect Elli, and I do respect you and appreciate what you do at the Pov, are you changing your tune or just playing to the left side of the isle now?

      You spent a lot of time this past election telling Missoula Republicans how “conservative” you were and how you had more in common with them than all the “crazy liberals” in Missoula. You even spun this line criticizing crazy Missoula liberals when you spoke with GOP Chair Will Deschamps this summer. As I recall, you turned down Deschamps’ offer to help Montana businesses expand job growth in this state by co-sponsoring a bill to reduce Montana business taxes.

      • Pogo Possum

        More precisely, after you told Will how conservative you are, Deschamps offered to have you co-sponsor a bill to reduce Montana’s “business equipment tax” to help attract more businesses and more jobs to our state and to free up capital to allow Montana businesses to expand.

        I bet the offer to add your name to that bill still stands if you are serious about working with Republicans to help job growth. Montana business owners and Montana job seekers would appreciate your help Ellie. I hope you consider it.

      • Craig Moore

        “Crazy liberals?” Goodness, where’s the bar of soap?

        Pogo I’m reminded of the discussion here: http://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/montana-conservation-voters-endorse-ellie-hill-bryce-bennett/

        Ellie Hill: “…I hope folks keep things about political differences and not personal attacks. ”

        Too bad that political opportunists that see Montana as a whistle stop on their way to “more important” political jobs don’t try a bit harder to keep things about solving problems rather than emphasizing political differences.

        • Hey Pogo,
          With all due respect, I don’t what you’re talking about regarding a conversation where I said any such thing. Further, Will Deschamps has never contacting me about co-sponsoring a bill. Where did you hear these things?
          I absolutely support a reduction in a business equipment tax, if it helps small businesses… not Conoco Phillips. If you don’t mind, would you be willing to email me personally? I promise not to give up your alias, and I would love to work on something with our local GOP.
          Thanks for keeping things cool, Pogo. I appreciate our sometimes different philosophies but you never get mean. I notice and appreciate it!
          Best, Ellie

          • Apologies for the typos above… I’m using a tiny keyboard.

            • Pogo Possum

              I stand by my observations regarding your conversations with Missoula Republicans Ellie, including your conversation with Deschamps.

              Will didn’t approach you, rather you were explaining your conservative leanings to him when he responded with an offer for you to put your name on a bill to reduce business equipment taxes. You declined.

              But let’s make a positive out of this. You say you would support a reduction in business equipment taxes but don’t want to give the Conoco Phillips of the world a tax break. OK……then indroduce a bill that does just that and/or work with a GOP legislator to do the same.

              While there may be arguments your bill doesn’t go far enough, it will at least show a good faith effort on your part to conservatives and show Montana business owners you are working for them. It will expand your base of voters and show GOP legislators and business minded independents you are willing to go half way. Get the Democrats to sign off on it along with some GOP legislators and it might pass.

              Think about it. This could be a good move for you, Montana businesses and people in need of jobs.

              • Didn’t the governor’s budget propose to eliminate the business tax on everyone but the big Conoco kind of businesses?

                And wasn’t it paid for?

                The GOP has had to abandon it because they went and threw out budget estimates and the governor’s budget and now it can’t be funded.

                Again – I’m not one to agree with the Governor, and even if you do agree with him, I’d say a reasonable person would be willing to accept that his budget director might be off on his projections. But the projections from the legislative side should face the same scrutiny and criticism…

                Dems I’m sure supported the Governor’s budget – and therefore, businesses would have been able to kiss that tax good bye.

                If they can’t or don’t this session, I don’t see how Democrats could be the ones to blame.

              • … sounds a lot like lucy promising to hold the football steady for charlie brown there pogo…………..

              • Pogo Possum

                No it doesn’t.

              • Pogo Possum

                Correct me if I am wrong, jhwyGirl, but as I recall Democrats fully supported Schweitzer’s spending increases but I don’t recall many Democrats jumping on his “cut business equipments taxes ” bandwagon. And unless I missed a bill, I don’t see any business equipment tax cut bills (of any type) sponsored by Democrats.

                So my suggestion still stands. Sponsor a bill that cuts equipment taxes for just Montana businesses and quit using the Conoco Phillips argument to oppose any equipment tax cuts.

                Ellie could make a positive name for herself with Montana business owners.

              • There is a bill out there to cut business taxes, but it was decided to pull it back because it can’t be paid for.

                There is no way to replace the revenue to the locals.

                It was even in the newspapers.

              • Pogo Possum

                If you are talking about Regier’s HB 325 it appears to still be alive and is not listed as tabled.

                Tutvedt has his draft of LC 648 in Legal Review. I haven’t seen a copy of it yet.

  3. Craig Moore

    I find the hyperbole here over the top as the governor would appoint the leaders.

    As I see it, this Home Guard would be a gap filler. With National Guard units regularly called into service to fight wars in foreign countries, what’s wrong with a voluntary regulated similarly functioning group to provide necessary services back home?

    BTW, this bill is going nowhere. It’s fodder for discussion, nothing more.

    • carfreestupidity

      I don’t see anything wrong with it if the language in the bill actually matched what the bill’s supporters are actually saying the bill is for. You don’t need armed militia members if the purpose of the militia is to help “fill the gap” when a county floods and sand bags need to be filled and supplies distributed.

      Please explain to me a situation in which you would like to see an armed militia group out in the streets?

      • Craig Moore

        CFS, as a backstop to an otherwise serving NG, the HG would perform those services. I can’t remember when we have had NG troops putting down civil insurrection in Montana either. This hysteria is overblown. The bill hasn’t even come up for a vote: http://laws.leg.mt.gov/laws11/LAW0203W$BSRV.ActionQuery?P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&P_BILL_NO=278&P_BILL_DFT_NO=&P_CHPT_NO=&Z_ACTION=Find&P_SBJ_DESCR=&P_SBJT_SBJ_CD=&P_LST_NM1=&P_ENTY_ID_SEQ=

        That being said please don’t lose sight of the eminent domain bill which would give “the power” to private corporations. Coming up for a 3rd reading today. That one is scary as Schweitzer seems to want it: http://laws.leg.mt.gov/laws11/LAW0203W$BSRV.ActionQuery?P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&P_BILL_NO=198&P_BILL_DFT_NO=&P_CHPT_NO=&Z_ACTION=Find&P_SBJ_DESCR=&P_SBJT_SBJ_CD=&P_LST_NM1=&P_ENTY_ID_SEQ=

        • carfreestupidity

          Good point, and I think jhwygirl has a post coming up about that bill.

          • Craig Moore

            The damn thing passed: http://laws.leg.mt.gov/laws11/LAW0211W$BLAC.VoteTabulation?P_VOTE_SEQ=H335

            Take note of the Y’s. Put them out of office.

    • carfreestupidity

      Also… Just because the Gov. gets to commission a company’s captain, doesn’t necessarily mean that the Gov. is going to spend the time to choose a captain out of a group of possible candidates. Most likely the captain would be the person that starts the petition and organization process at the local level.

      • Craig Moore

        CFS, all of this is as scary as a volunteer fire department.

        • carfreestupidity

          I don’t really find all this scary. However I do find this kind of sad and rather hilarious

        • Craig: You meant to say “scary as an ARMED volunteer fire department.”

          • Craig Moore

            Yeah, you know those axes like in the Shining.

          • Lynn

            http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/07/montana-militia/

    • Why would a “gap filler” need to be armed? In the event that the Missoula Police cause a SECOND riot?

  4. CharleyCarp

    Rep. Hill wins the Internet.

  5. I don’t know who would volunteer for it –

    I can see the point of it – The National Guard in recent years has become an instrument of foreign policy, and the Police make it clear that they CAN’T be expected to protect you –

    BUT – if the red parachutes start coming down from the sky I’m going home to get my rifle,protect the family, and start packing up the car, not run to the fire hall and join up with a unit –

    As Craig said, It’s not going anywhere -

    • Why don’t we just stop using the National Guard as an instrument of foreign policy and return it to being the militia the second amendment promises?

      Or follow Schweitzer’s suggestion (even before Katrina) to rotate guard units in such a way that they are home during the times of year when it is most likely to be needed at home.

  6. The red parachutes? Really, Eric? Really? Red parachutes. Just incredible. Simply incredible. I’m just… Wait for it… I’m standing up and… Yup. I’m clapping. I’m clapping for you Eric. It’s a standing ovation. You’ve finally brought your insanity to Foos Levels. Foos Levels, Eric! Way to go.

    Eric! Eric! Eric!

    • Well Duganz – give me another scenario for needing a home guard unit –

      If canada decided to invade us, their army doesn’t amount to much, and I suspect that the citizens of Havre could defeat them and force their surrender –

      If Mexica comes across the border, I doubt they get past Arizona –

      A sea-based invasion from the West would fail well before the mountain passes –

      And an invasion from the East wouldn’t get across the Mississippi –

      So the only other scenario would be the Russians doing a Combat Drop from the air – like the movie ‘Red Dawn’ – and the only one to connect it was Rob –

      But I’m not sticking around town if it happens – as I said, I’ll grab the rifle, and head up to the cabin at Red Lodge, and eat the neighbors pet deer until it’s over !

      I have no idea where this bill cam from, but I think it’s chances of passage are less than quite poor.

      • carfreestupidity

        Please do us a favor and crawl back into your basement from whence you came from. Then you can safely live out your roll play fantasy of being the lone-wolf that halts the soviet invasion of North America. You should be happy to know that they are planning a remake of Red Dawn… so you’ll have plenty of new material to integrate into you fantasy.

      • I so want to see the Canadian invasion forces.

        Also, I got the “Red Dawn” reference. I just thought it was more fun to kid you.

  7. Ingemar Johansson

    Yeah Eric, these tea party people-they’re more dangerous the the Muslim Brotherhood.

  8. Max Bucks

    We already have a “Home Guard.” It is called the Posse Comitatus. Every county in Montana has one, and they are all linked together. 3-7-77

  9. I don’t think it should surprise anybody that nothing in this bill provides for proper training of the “home guard’ volunteers. The National guard, who’s training follows strict federal guidelines for each MOS (military occupational specialty), at least ensures some competence. Warburton’s bill calls for no such training, even for basic infantry personal. I’m sorry, but the idea that my legal rights and safety could be in the hands of a bunch of paint-ball geeks or weekend varmint shooters just does not enhance my calm.

    Mantra of the Tea Party: Incompetence, it’s what’s for dinner.

    • i think it’s just fine. let’s invite all the gun nuts to join……

  10. Craig Moore

    From the bill:

    NEW SECTION. Section 25. How home guard company may be established. (1) A home guard company may be established in any of the following ways:
    2 (a) The governor may appoint a home guard captain and authorize that captain to recruit, train, muster,
    3 and equip a home guard company.
    4 (b) Any citizen of good repute may form a company and petition the governor to appoint the citizen as
    5 the company’s captain and to accept the company into the home guard.
    6 (c) Any group of citizens may form a company, select a company captain, and petition the governor to
    7 commission the captain and accept the company as part of the home guard.
    8 (2) To be officially recognized as a home guard company, the company must be certified by the governor
    9 pursuant to 10-1-702.
    10
    11 Section 26. Section 10-1-702, MCA, is amended to read:
    12 “10-1-702. Gubernatorial rules for home guard — company certification — decertification. (1) The
    13 home guard shall must be organized, armed, equipped, maintained, disciplined, governed, administered, and
    14 trained under rules prescribed by the governor in accordance with the provisions of this part. These rules shall
    15 conform to federal law and regulations. The rules may not be so burdensome that they preclude home guard
    16 companies from being effectively organized, trained, and employed pursuant to this part.

    Rob, seems like the Governor gets to decide proper training and certification. Without either, no blessed HG unit.

    • Craig Moore

      I just noticed that the blockquoting didn’t reflect the strikeouts . See pages 8 and 9.

    • That’s quite alright, Craig. I’ve read the bill. I do see that the Governor gets to decide “training”. And I repeat:

      Mantra of the Tea Party: Incompetence, it’s what’s for dinner.

      • Craig Moore

        I’m sorta a coffee nudge sorta guy. I want Warburton out for her Y on HB198.

  11. mr benson

    I’m going out to look for some red parachutes.

    • Craig Moore

      Watch out for those guys in the red flying squirrel suits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H94ZLgXYNBA&feature=fvsr

    • WOLVERINES!

      Or should that be BOBCATS!

      • mr benson

        HAWKS!

  12. After a night of pondering this bill I’ve come to one conclusion: We DO need an armed and ready force for the impending Zombie Apocalypse. However, it’s best that this group be armed with swords and machetes, which do not require reloading.

    I’ll gladly join the Anti-Zombie Forces.

    • I’d run from the zombies – LOL

      Where’s Woody Harrelson when we need him?

      Zombieland Rule #8 – Geat a Kick Ass Partner

    • mr benson

      I’m pretending that I’m Canadian

      • Craig Moore

        Does that make you a hoser?

        • mr benson

          Take off, eh?

          • Craig Moore

            Eh is for orses, hoser.

    • The_Boneshackler

      I, for one, prefer the Apokatana. Locally made to boot.

      http://zombietools.net/tools/

      • When the Zombies come: think locally, act globally.

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