Connecting Ukraine to Cliven Bundy

by lizard

Ukraine is on the precipice as Russian war planes buzz US ships and Brennan, the director of the CIA, returns from a trip to Kiev over the weekend. A deadline has come and gone with no action from the Ukrainian government. Buildings are still occupied and reports of shots fired are popping up. Any small spark could set things off.

The manner in which power transferred in Ukraine has created a government legitimacy problem Russia is now openly exploiting. Part of that legitimacy problem comes from legitimate concerns with the level of US involvement, especially after Victoria Nuland’s Fuck the EU leak hit the web.

I know that kind of evidence is hard for some to absorb, but it validates concerns that unnecessary provocations took place to dispose of a corrupt tool who made the mistake of taking the wrong mobster’s deal.

On a seemingly unrelated note, I suspect the same people who support ends justify the means reasoning behind the overthrowing of the Ukrainian government are probably appropriately worried about the sudden stand off over Cliven Bundy’s cattle and the grass they graze.

I finally got caught up on this right wing memicane (meme+hurricane) after catching a little Chris Hayes tonight, and boy howdy, this has got to be one of the best Fox and friends outrage-gasms ever.

Unfortunately, the underlying belief that the Federal government is illegitimate is a very real, very dangerous opinion shared by the kind of people who showed up in armed support of Cliven Bundy’s refusal to pay what he’s obliged to pay, by law.  How do you think our government would react if right-wing militia groups tried to storm and occupy government buildings by force in DC?

Here’s something I would hope is obvious by now: when governments are removed, power vacuums are created, and that usually means instability and violence. Just look at Libya, where the Prime Minister quit after just a month on the job:

Libya’s interim prime minister handed his resignation to parliament on Sunday, just one month into the job, saying gunmen had tried to attack his family.

Abdullah al-Thinni’s resignation adds to the growing chaos in Libya, where the government has struggled to control brigades of former rebels nearly three years after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.

By delegitimizing governments abroad in preparation of enacting regime change after regime change, the cheerleaders of neoliberal free-market expansion don’t seem to understand that the same reasoning is used domestically by right-wing separatist movements in the States.

Going back to the situation in Ukraine, here’s how Michael Whitney summarizes US interests from an article posting today at Counterpunch, titled Is Putin Being Lured Into a Trap?:

The overriding goal of US policy in Ukraine is to stop the further economic integration of Asia and Europe. That’s what the fracas is really all about. The United States wants to control the flow of energy from East to West, it wants to establish a de facto tollbooth between the continents, it wants to ensure that those deals are transacted in US dollars and recycled into US Treasuries, and it wants to situate itself between the two most prosperous markets of the next century. Anyone who has even the sketchiest knowledge of US foreign policy– particularly as it relates to Washington’s “pivot to Asia”– knows this is so. The US is determined to play a dominant role in Eurasia in the years ahead. Wreaking havoc in Ukraine is a central part of that plan.

I look forward to be doing told why this is just more nonsense being spewed by us crazy lefties.

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  1. Big Swede

    There’s definitely a connection between the two.

    Governmental tyrants don’t like guns being pointed back at them.

    • lizard19

      and apparently right-wing ranchers don’t like compensating another property owner (the Feds) for the use of land.

      • Big Swede

        The Feds need show proof of purchase from1864 that they have clear title.

        • Big Swede

          A more informed take on just who owns what.

          http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228933

          • JC

            Bundy could, you know, make his assertions in Federal Court, and get a legitimate ruling. That is, if he wasn’t an libertarian-style anarchist. Hard to prove land ownership assertions if one isn’t prepared to make their case in court.

            • Big Swede

              So let me wrap my head around this.

              You want Federal Court to rule against itself?

              • JC

                So you don’t believe in the judicial system, either, eh? Nice. You are an anarchist.

              • Big Swede

                “We’ll be fighting in the streets
                With our children at our feet
                And the morals that they worship will be gone
                And the men who spurred us on
                Sit in judgement of all wrong
                They decide and the shotgun sings the song”

                ~ “Won’t Get Fooled Again” (The Who)

  2. I just want you to know that you are doing some really fine work here. The article on Pat Williams also made me at first “nauseous” and then disgusted. I think you should put “benign and benevolent” if every title from now on.

    I feel like I’m caught up in some strange past life experience and I’m sitting in a saloon with some steel workers. We are experiencing the world of about one hundred and ten years ago when there were truly competing ideologies. There was anarchism (non-hierarchal cooperation mutual aid), Marxism, predatory capitalism, do-gooder reformer Progressivism, socialism…. There were fresh ideas like National Parks and 8 hour work days, cooperatives, and women’s rights. Then along came the banksters and industrialists to create World Wars. The Democrat Wilson came up with the Calvinist idea of making the world safe for his brand of democracy by subjugating it with “humanitarian intervention” which continues to this day in the glassy eyed stares of “benign and benevolent” Samantha Powers and John Brennan.

    Here we are again. Our Articles of Confederation were pretty good (needed bill of rights maybe) except for the big land owners and merchants since the state legislatures were being controlled by…ugh…riff riff like blacksmiths and farmers. So they instigated a coup and slammed in a republic designed with it’s House of Lords and strong executive to represent the elite. This is the constitution that the some conservatives find precious, but I think needs an overhaul.

    Russia is asking that the Ukraine be governed more like a federation of strong regions so that there is some autonomy and the Ukraine feds can’t just outlaw the Russian language or nuke Putin.

    These should be times of interesting discussions and alternatives to neo-liberalism aka predatory capitalism aka inverted totalitarianism. Not just knee jerk progressive thought stoppers as John Michael Greer would say.

    • lizard19

      thank you, much appreciated feralcat. I remember you recently posting a link to Moon of Alabama—that site continues to be one of the most insightful, lively blogs and comment sections I’ve found. a comment I read the other day speculated that Brennan’s trip to Kiev may have been confirmed by the Obama administration as push-back from internal efforts to weaken Obama before the midterms. I think that’s being pretty generous to Obama, but who knows. there’s a lot going on beneath the surface we may never know. regardless, things are escalating and if cooler heads don’t prevail, there’s no telling what may happen.




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