Coming Soon to Missoula: Tits!

by Rebecca Schmitz

Er…I mean Hooters.  I wonder if Missoulian reporter Lori Grannis had a hard time keeping a straight face while writing her article about Missoula’s newest restaurant.  The careful efforts of the owner, Steve Edgar, to distinguish his property from all the other American chain restaurants serving mediocre food without mentioning Hooters’ obvious attractions are unintentionally hilarious.  Some choice quotes:

Hooters, he said, was just too intriguing a prospect to give up on.

Edgar said Hooters and the casino will be “a haven for sports fans,” with more than 38 large-screen plasma televisions planned.

Staff training for Hooters is intense, according to Edgar. “Hooters employees spend eight weeks training in another Hooters location, learning every station in the restaurant,” he said. After a series of tests, each work with the restaurant’s general manager, then head off to Atlanta for a week at Hooters University, he said.

Hooters U? What’s its nickname, Home of the Bouncing Implants? I didn’t realize people needed to be schooled in selling sex.  Whatever. I hope all those breast men “sports fans” in the area “intrigued” at the idea of ordering chicken wings with a side of celery sticks and blue cheese are happy.  I’m pretty sure there’s something else they serve that’s different from all the other chains on Reserve, but for the life of me and Mr. Edgar we can’t think what that might be.


  1. chrislatray

    C’mon, Rebecca, you know you are all about the little orange hot pants. . . .

  2. Widowmaker

    Ok, I sent the title to family. They laughed really hard. Thats exactly how my mother feels.

  3. All right! Way to drive those blog stats up!

  4. {sigh} A statement of the sad state of affairs of Missoula area’s economic development.

    Sure is keeping with our overall movement to a service-based industry, isn’t it?

    Lovely. What’s next? A sex industry convention?

  5. I don’t know. Is that neck of the woods really even Missoula? I know when I am out on Reserve Street from about Mullan to I-90 I hardly even feel like I am in Montana.

  6. Jay, I thought to myself, “Why not?” We already get all the folks searching for “panty sniffers” running into my post about Rick Jore. If we can get perverts interested in politics and agreeing with us, well, the more the merrier.

    At least with a sex industry convention the participants would be honest about the main draw. I hate the wink-wink-nudge-nudge b.s. that Steve Edgar and Hooters is engaging in. Just be honest. Tits: that’s what it’s all about. Because frankly? The food sucks.

  7. Apropo of very little, I used to work graveyard shift right next door to the nationally famous Fred’s Lounge. Never, not once, while I was growing up hearing about it or otherwise, has anyone ever pretended that Fred’s was other than it was. Prurient interest is a dollar generator. Nobody needs to be explicit about it.

    Edgar doesn’t pretend that Hooters is family friendly, or that they serve haute cuisine. It is what it is. I think most people are adult enough to know that Hooters is a bod display. (Let’s get over the dilusion that it’s only about tits. Men like the whole booty. Strange … that happens.) I think the Mizzou article is somewhat evasive, but certainly not dishonest. It’s a food joint with entertainment, and yeah, some of the women who want to work there probably need the training.

    And, no offense Rebecca, but having not eaten there, can you honestly comment as to the quality of the food?

    ;-)

  8. Dan

    Wulfgar is right, it is what it is.

  9. And, no offense Rebecca, but having not eaten there, can you honestly comment as to the quality of the food?

    Did Rebecca mention somewhere that she hasn’t eaten at a Hooter’s?

  10. I didn’t say Lori’s article was dishonest so much as, well, silly. Why all the explanations? Who cares about the size of the TVs? Just open Hooters, and, to use another trite cliche, let Hooters be Hooters. As for using “tits”, you have to admit it’s quicker to type four letters and be punchy than to go into the fact that, yes, men are stimulated by visual cues and are interested in the whole physical package because evolutionary theory tells us men are looking for women with signs of health and fertility to spread their genes…blah blah blah. Zzzzzzzzz….

    Tits. It’s the name of the restaurant. It’s the gimmick. I hate Donald Rumsfeld’s over-used words, but as you said, it is what it is.

    As for the food, it’s chain Americana. Meaning nothing special and no use pretending people are going there for it.

  11. Despite my tongue firmly in my cheek, earlier, I do have to clarify. I’ve eaten at a Denny’s in Denver, Colorado. Then I ate at the Denny’s in Bozeman … you know, the one that closed after less than 9 months. Chain food, but one of these things was not like the other.

    And yes, Rebecca, you really did strongly insinuate that the article was dishonest, and pretty much said that Edgar was. I simply don’t agree. If you have a target drawn on Hooters, I don’t think ‘dishonesty’ is it. Please tell us; what do you really think? Is it that women’s bodies shouldn’t be marketable? Is it that Hooters is immoral? Is it that some forms of making money are more unpalatable than others? If we’re going to object, lets at least be honest about what we find objectionable.

  12. I wrote a haiku about this. Sometimes even I’m surprised by what I read in the paper.

  13. Hooters haiku, Joe? Awesome!

    I am being honest, Wulfgar. Sometimes a person just has to laugh at the extent to which a businessman will go to promote his product. I think you’re reading more indignation than is actually there on my part. Do you want me to burst out with some sort of feminist rant against Hooters, i.e. The Patriarchy? Sorry to disappoint you. I’m not offended by Hooters in the least; I’m perfectly fine with strippers, pornography and good old fashioned eye candy.

    My opinion is merely this: Steve Edgar should just be honest and adult about it and admit he’s in the business of hot chicks in tight clothes. There’s nothing wrong with that (and really, there is nothing more to my post). To only promote his restaurant’s casino, TVs and special schooling for employees is catering to that kind of smirking quasi-Puritanical sexuality America excels in: where we all pretend we’re above sex and sexual urges while eating dinner at a Hooters.

  14. petetalbot

    I vaguely remember some guy filing a discrimination suit against Hooters because the company wouldn’t hire him. I’m not sure how it turned out. Perhaps I’ll lose my manssier and apply for a job. Then sue their asses and retire to Mexico.

  15. Rebecca, I think you and I should go down and ask for job applications. I mean, we’ve got tits, right?

  16. We put the double OO in Hooters!

  17. Steve Edgar

    Hi Rebecca, Friend of mine contacted me tonight and asked me to read the comments written here. First, let me say that I believe everyone is welcome to their opinion and I respect that.

    In all fairness Lori contacted me and asked me many, many questions about myself, Hooters, the property and employees. I answered all of he questions she asked as honestly and truefull as I could. At no time did I suggest what she asked etc… I had no idea what direction her story was going nor could I control how she wrote it. I felt she wrote a very informative good article.

    Hooters concept has changed a liittle over last 10 years. In my opinion the current concept is about providing a fun enviroment with beautiful and personable women entertaining the guests with personality looks and great scenery as you put it. Hooters is also a very successful Restaurant that provides good food and has all the sports packages available for the sports fan which is many. Granted the staff serving the refreshments during these events are going to be fun to be around and pleasant to look at. That is what business is all about. Providing what the customer wants. I think all businesses want to provide good service with attractive people Hooters just makes it a prime focus.

    I have recently just hired the last person on my management staff. Ironically all of the managers happen to be women as well even though i interviewed more males than females. I believe you will find when I open that the managers will provide exceptional service and great food. We are going to be employing between 75 and 125 well paid employees. Hooter Girls will make a very good living in a service enviroment.

    I personally invite you to meet me and my staff when we open and give us your open minded opinion of your time there and the quality of food. You meal is on me!

    Thanks

    Steve

  18. Jamee Greer

    le Sigh.

    Hooters kinda bums me out. If we’re getting chains, I want a damn Olive Garden!

    Any word on where that Red Robin is supposed to open?

  19. Like Denny’s, I’ve eaten at Hooters in probably 5 different states. I can think of WA, KS, NC, IL, and OH right off the top of my head. There may be more, I don’t know. Bottom line is that, again, like Denny’s, the food pretty much sucked at every one. Over-priced, deep fried awfulness. Regarding their MO (I want to see Patia and Rebecca in the orange hot pants now!), I don’t have much of a problem. No one is forcing the buxom women to work there. No one is forcing people to go there. As for me, I think Missoula needs another ubiquitous chain restaurant/sports bar about as much as we need a nuclear reactor in McCormick Park. That said, the people choosing where to spend their eating out money will decide whether it succeeds or fails.

  20. On the bright side, at least it wasn’t another tiresome article about THE LOFT OF MISSOULA. :)

  21. Thanks for commenting, Steve. I appreciate your taking the time to come here and brave what may or may not be a sympathetic crowd. I hope you don’t mind if I decline your invitation. It’s nothing against Hooters specifically (unlike my friend Jamie, I wouldn’t eat at an Olive Garden either)–I just don’t do chain restaurants. I’m all about eating and dining local.

    Chris, if the food sucks, why are you eating at all those Hooters? Oh, wait…never mind. ;-)

  22. Chris, if the food sucks, why are you eating at all those Hooters?

    Well, two reasons (yuck, yuck). First, in most cases I’ve been at the mercy of the democratic process of being out-voted when there is a group choosing where to eat. And, second, when one is on the road in unfamiliar strip mall/big box hell (which is where these restaurants usually are), sometimes the bad food you know is better than the potentially worse food you don’t.

  23. Lori Grannis

    For clarification, this was assigned as a news story, pure and simple. As such, I wrote the facts as they pertained to reporting that Hooters was a new business coming to town.

    I am not paid to have an opinion on Hooters, I am paid to report the news fairly and objectively. It is a straightforward approach to what is happening.

    I certainly will entertain other comments if they are submitted directly to me, and will likely do follow ups. Feel free to email me directly if you have comment: lori.grannis@lee.net.

    Rebecca: Whether silly or not, I asked a new owner of a new business coming into Missoula what his plans included. He answered. I reported. Should there be any mystery to this?

  24. Steve Edgar

    I hope you don’t mind if I decline your invitation. It’s nothing against Hooters specifically (unlike my friend Jamie, I wouldn’t eat at an Olive Garden either)–I just don’t do chain restaurants. I’m all about eating and dining local.

    Rebecca, I guess that is what makes the world we go around in interesting. We all have different likes and dislikes. I am exactly the opposite of you here in Missoula or on the road. When I want to eat I generally look for the Chain or Franchise to eat at that I know I will get a consistent meal with generally well trained and managed employees. Every once in a while I venture down town with my family to try out one of those new local dining places only to recieve inconsistent quality food and service. The last two times I left dissapointed and not wanting to go back (no names). There are a few exceptions of course (Depot) whicha has been awesome for years.

    Sorry to hear you do not wish to meet us at Hooters when we open or at least try our food. I do belive it could make your opinion more valued if you took the time to at least experience the service and food of a place you offered such graphic opions.

  25. You’ve forgotten I support your business, Steve. I just have no desire to eat industrial food in an Anywhere USA restaurant. I want my money to go to those local merchants you’ve unfortunately found to be lacking. The Hooters corporate offices in Atlanta don’t need my paycheck. I think they’re doing just fine without me.

    You know, when I wrote this post yesterday it was just a lighthearted comment on a bland Missoulian article that gave me a chuckle first thing in the morning. As Jay said to me in a side comment, I’ve “hit the trifecta”: hits are up, and I’ve got both the reporter and the business owner miffed.

    I think you know as well as I do, Lori, that I wasn’t asking you to report your opinion (that’s what bloggers are for). You’re selling journalism short. You wrote a fluff piece on a franchise with a history of discrimination lawsuits and controversy. None of this was mentioned. Granted, the Missoulian is not the New York Times, but in just about any article dealing with Wal-Mart’s efforts to open new stores in Montana, there’s usually mention of local community groups opposed to the company and the construction. There might not be any opposition to Hooters now, if ever, but I think both of us know there are probably people out there unhappy it’s coming to the area. (I don’t know about you, but I smell another one of Dallas Erickson’s Letters to the Editor.) On the other side, no doubt there were plenty of sniggering conversations around the water cooler in offices all over town about the beloved “Hooter Girls”. I don’t know how you or your paper could pretend otherwise.

    No mystery here, Lori: it’s a new owner of a new business with a lot of baggage. The Missoulian, however, left the baggage on the airport carousel in favor of getting a non-fat soymilk cinnamon cappuccino journalism lite latte in the lounge. So sure, you can fairly and objectively report on a new owner of a new business in town without any further questions as required by your bosses. Just don’t expect your paper to be taken seriously when its articles are so bland they generate a few laughs.

  26. Steve Edgar

    One parting comment Rebecca. The money spent at Hooters when opened does not go to Atlanta. I am a local businessman that is from here and lived here all my life. The money is mine and what I pay and bonus my employees. Hooters receives a small perentage of sales as a royalty for use of the name and for saving me way more than the royalty amount on my cost of goods! There is some corporate owned franchises like outback, olive garden etc… but Hooters in Missoula is locally owned.

    Cheers

  27. You might be a local boy, Steve, but it’s corporate food served in a corporate atmosphere in a building that’s nothing but one big corporate logo. I don’t want to eat the same food in the same restaurant found in Cedar Rapids, Daytona Beach, Spokane, Newark and Tempe. Likewise, if I went to one of those places I’d try to find something that’s not available here in Missoula or anyplace else. Chain culture does not interest me. However, I’m positive your potential patrons feel otherwise and will be very happy ogling away the evening at Hooters.

  28. Dan

    A tip o’ the hat to Steve for posting his comments. His statements are well reasoned and thoughtful. This entire thread has been rather polite, something thats all to foreign these days

  29. Jim Lang

    I’m sick of these thinly disguised advertisements being passed off as news articles… that is, unless I can get in on it… Ms. Grannis, you can contact me at my_business_could_use_a_kickstart@guscreek.com

  30. I think that’s the funniest thing I’ve read in this entire thread, Jim.

  31. goof houlihan

    I think it will be a fine place for my son and I to catch a basketball game when I’m visiting him at the UMMMMM.

    Make sure you get all the ESPN packages, especially Full Court.

    As jagger said, it aint the latest thing, and I’d feel a little hugh hefnerish going to a hooters, but well, sports bars in general aren’t shade grown free trade coffee shops full of hairy wookies and extra crunchy earth muffins.

    I hope you have a couple of dart boards.

    I know Rebecca touched on this, but it seems that puritans from the right and left will be picketing the place. Hooters makes a great target for the holier than thou bent on imposing their own morality on others.

  32. Speaking as one of those hairy wookies (it’s genetics, I swear), I’d like to say that I’m sure you’d look just fine in a matching silk pajama and bathrobe set, Goof. Just don’t marry someone 50 years younger–it will never last. Unless you’re purely interested in sex…and hey, that reminds me:

    Did anyone else get a laugh out of the fact our Hooters is located on Stockyard Road?

  33. goof houlihan

    Saw HH on TV lately, and he is as bizarre a sixties relic as there remains on earth.

    Before we get to down on the generica on Reserve, it’s incumbent on the council to make public safety a little more important downtown. If that means having some more police walking around freakin out the homeless and the drunk, so be it.

    Heck if there was a thirty hdtv plasma screened dart board hangin, hot wings and earth muffined sports bar, that wasn’t a franchise, and where the women were customers, too, I’d go to that one.

  34. Hey, at least you can still be a pedestrian downtown. Have you tried walking from place to place out on Reserve Street? That area is a freakin’ nightmare.

    List line made my day, I must confess:

    sports bars in general aren’t shade grown free trade coffee shops full of hairy wookies and extra crunchy earth muffins.

  35. I’m with you, Rebecca. Life is too short to eat at all the Cisco Cafes, especially in Missoula where there are so many good homegrown restaurants serving real food.

  36. JC

    A few thoughts:

    How can the Missoulian spec out what facts, fairness and objectivity are when it is obvious that it is courting a new advertiser? There is a huge amount of conflict of interest in the media when it comes to having to balance “objectivity” against revenue. Reminds me of the day the Missoulian reported on and editorialized about the need for Montanans to donate money to the Montana Meth Project. Only to turn the page and see a full page ad funded by said Project. What’s the real motive here? Reporting on the business community poses a huge, and undisclosed conflict of interest for the Missoulian. But it isn’t Lori G’s fault–she needs a paycheck, too.

    Next, given that the Missoulian can redefine the objective landscape by which to report the facts, what really does the Hooters mean for our community? Personally, I could give a rats @$$ about the place. It’s impending arrival has more to say about the character of a certain segment of Missoula’s citizenry, than it does about a business model or quality of food or plasma screens. Tells me more what my neighbors who may visit the place are really like, than it does anything about the owner, ambience or employees.

    And finally, if you want some facts, drop by a local high school (or ask your teenage daughter like I did) to see what the kids are saying about Hooters, or about their friends who they think are well enough endowed to work there. There’s some pretty brutal peer gossip going on around school campuses right now. And some kids weighing their future employment opportunities based on some “objective facts.” The size of their bosoms, or the size of their pocketbook that will allow them to have the needed assets augmented enough to be “objectified” by your and my neighbors.

  37. Lori Grannis

    Rebecca,

    I think it’s interesting that you can look at one article that reported news, and assume that nothing else will ever be done on the place as time passes.

    At this juncture, before permits are purchased and construction begins, this was the correct approach.

    I think what this may boil down to is that you were dismayed that I didn’t go into a man-hating rant over Hooters.

    Missoula always fascinates me – people here feel immune to the economy, and feel that their single viewpoint is the only one that matters – and should be heard – most.

    Remember, you’re always free to contact my city editor to share what you find acceptable in terms of article content.

  38. Man-hating? Lori, it seems your reading comprehension skills, like your journalism skills, are sorely lacking. To quote myself:

    Do you want me to burst out with some sort of feminist rant against Hooters, i.e. The Patriarchy? Sorry to disappoint you. I’m not offended by Hooters in the least; I’m perfectly fine with strippers, pornography and good old fashioned eye candy.

    Now, since I’m not a member of the Psychic Friends Network, I don’t know what the Missoulian plans to report on in the future. I can only go by the sloppy job your paper’s done in the past. However, if you think the contributors to and readers of this site are not aware of the local and national economy you haven’t been reading it for very long. We’ve got an entire category dedicated to business and the economy. Why not take a glance at it in your fair and objective manner before you lecture us on our collective ignorance?

    As for my “single” viewpoint, it’s this: don’t blame your readers if you’re poorly paid to do a poor job.

  39. Ed, I like to refer to it as “Food Service Corporation of America Food”. I don’t want my food–and my life–to be focus-grouped and high fructose corn syruped to death. Literally.

  40. Cathie

    Lori must be new, and is obviously unaware that the Missoulian often publishes stories that are first originated right in this very 4&20 Blackbirds blog….let’s see – recently it was the SRS funding story that you guys (or gals) did a week or so ago (in the Missoulian this past Sunday) – then, if I recall, there was the Great Falls coal-to-gasification plant – there was also the Lewie Schneller stuff…jiminy!, the list goes on.

  41. Remember Cathie–we’re not paid to be fair and objective here at 4&20. And thank goodness for that. ;-)

  42. Well, Rebecca, YOU put the OO in Hooters. I, OTOH, only put the oo in Hooters. :-)

    I think you should take Mr. Edgar up on his offer for a free meal, and you should bring me. We could both take lots of pictures and blog about it. And, hey, it’s a free meal, even if it is deep-fried awfulness. Actually, I kind of LIKE deep-fried awfulness, which brings me to …

    … Chris, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I doubt those orange hot pants come in my size.

    Wulfgar and Lori, I really don’t think Rebecca was looking for a man-hating rant, just a little acknowledgment of the fact that this place’s theme is — hello? — hooters! Sports TV and well-trained wait staff aside, the article seemed to be overlooking the elephant in the room.

    I don’t have a problem with Hooters coming to Missoula, either. I might not agree with the philosophy; I might even find some of it offensive (or maybe I’m just jealous because I’m not “pretty” enough to work there), but hey, this is America. To each their own.

    My real, uh, beef is that there is no equality. When are we girls going to get salads and bites platters served up to us by “beautiful and personable” MEN in tight tops and short shorts?

    Hmmm?

  43. Heck if there was a thirty hdtv plasma screened dart board hangin, hot wings and earth muffined sports bar, that wasn’t a franchise, and where the women were customers, too, I’d go to that one.

    My favorite 30-tv sports bar is the Press Box, out on East Broadway right next to the University footbridge. No muffins, but the food is halfway decent and you can get pancakes with your beer.

    That place was WC soccer HQ…

    I don’t think that’s a chain. People?

  44. Nope! I’m sure you and Goof can get together over beer and pancakes (ew?) someday soon!

  45. jhwygirl

    I’m thinking goof meant something different by the term “earth muffined” – goof?

  46. goof houlihan

    “so round so firm so fully packed”

    You can’t get em at CostCo.

  47. I’d steer clear of polymerized cheese plastic used on the nachos at the PB (last time I order them, at least, in 2005). But I enjoyed a damn cheap and filling breakfast during a World Cup quarterfinal.

    Still, Flipper’s is generally my World Cup watching spot. Only two and a half more years. And, truthfully, since the next one is going to be in South Africa, anyone who stays open in the middle of the night so I can watch will get my business.

  48. chrislatray

    I need a good place for watching international soccer games, and my beloved Columbus Crew too.

  49. goof houlihan

    If there is a hell, then ESPN shows only soccer games there.

  50. Ritz

    I can’t believe how patronizing your comments are, Steve. Your money is made taking advantage of young women, by selling their bodies. Your so-called restaurant is just another glorified version of the porn industry, so just call it what it is, please. Your hard work and efforts to keep women objectified and to feel that we are nothing more than physically marketable assets, is demeaning and deploring. And since you portend to be so forward thinking, where is the women’s version of this restaurant/casino of yours? We don’t hear about any men prancing about flaunting their private body parts, while balancing food on trays, easily demonstrating your sexism. You are nothing more than the epitome of a sexist, male chauvinist, who is trying to set us back centuries. This progressive town doesn’t need your Neanderthal business. We would like for our young women to grow up proud of who they are as a person and to not to feel stifled by the Hollywood notions and limits they are already flooded with, to be nothing more than plastic, bouncing body parts. This is very anti-progressive. It’s far time women got treated as equals, and that our young women are admired and respected for their intelligence and accomplishments, not for their fleeting physicality, just so that selfish opportunists like you, can make a buck off of them. Certainly, you can be more creative than this nonsense in your business pursuits? You know, something that helps to make us a better and more positive community for everyone, and to encourage our young people to want to stay and raise their families here. As for casinos, we have more than enough of them. Big screen televisions are a dime a dozen. Set your standards a little higher, it really isn’t that difficult.

  51. liesa

    yum, a bunch of fat, lonely losers shovelling down greasy mass-produced junk food oggling waitresses because no women will talk to them in real life. sounds like a great time.

  52. Steve Edgar

    Ritz I appreciate your opinion however I don’t agree with it. Hooters doors are going to be designed to swing both directions. If you feel as you do simply drive by and don’t stop or use the door just as you have done with any other business you dont want to do business with in the past. As far as women being objectified (the missoulian editorial term) those that feel they are being treated that way or will be and don’t agree with it please don’t apply for a job there. The Hooters girl will be the attractive outgoing girls that likes to be the center of attention like models, cheerleaders, other waitresses etc… and probably already are! Women will grow up and be who they are based on there parents up bringing not what restaraunts are opened in Missoula or anywhere else. The Missoulian told me the majority of letters they have received are from girls wanting to know where to apply to be a Hooters Girl as well as parents requesting the same information for their Daughter. It is interesting that a previous Miss Teen Montana has already contacted me and wants to work there as soon as we open. She is a very outgoing successful young lady with great morals and standards. Obviously these people also feel differently than you. This would be a boring world if we all like the same things and had same beliefs. Hooters like other concepts is not for everyone. So far I have had only positive reactions to the conept from this community other than just a very few (less than handful). A couple others were similar to Rebecca not liking any national chain because of simply that. The people that visit Missoula Hooters will quickly realize where my standards are set! Very High! Rebecca the invitation still stands.

  53. Arthur

    Rebecca said:
    “Whatever. I hope all those breast men “sports fans” in the area “intrigued” at the idea of ordering chicken wings with a side of celery sticks and blue cheese are happy. I’m pretty sure there’s something else they serve that’s different from all the other chains on Reserve, but for the life of me and Mr. Edgar we can’t think what that might be”.

    Then…
    “You’ve forgotten I support your business, Steve.”

    I doubt even Lance Armstrong could backpedal that fast…LOL

    Get over it, people. It’s not going to destroy Missoula, it’s a restaurant! And yes, kudos to Steve for having the decency to respond (and offer a free meal).

  54. I doubt it too, Arthur. However, unlike you, he’s also not known for taking quotes out of context.

    Reading comprehension. It’s a skill all athletes–from professional cyclists to Internet surfers–should master.

  55. HootersFan

    Rebecca,

    I respectfully acknowledge your opinion on the hooters opening in Missoula. However, “SELLING SEX” is not one of the things on the menu at any Hooters I’ve been to. As a matter of fact, I go there for the all-American atmosphere, the best wings anywhere, and the most outstanding service of any restaurant anywhere. My wife loves Hooters also, and we are a happy MONOGAMOUS couple. Your insinuation that males are going to receive some sort of “SEX” is absurd and ignorant. It sounds to me like you may be jealous, that you can’t fit into a nice pair of orange shorts and a tight shirt. Maybe instead of bagging on Mr. Edgar, you should take your soft body to the gym, get in shape, and go apply for a job. You’ve still got time.

    :) HOOTERSFAN

  56. Judging by the rest of your post, I take it your use of the word “respectfully” was meant to be ironic.

  57. HootersFan

    You know what’s hilarious to me….. People who think hooters is some sort of strip club, or some part of the porn industry. Give me a break! I understand how people say, the girls are what brings people in. That may be part of it, but without good food or good service, no one would come back. And the fact that people say, it’s just because the girls are good looking that it sells. Welcome to America, where good looking female real estate agents make millions, and good looking female business executives make their way through the ranks to the top of corporate America. It may be sad, but the simple fact of life in the world that we live in, is that people like to do business with beautiful people. It’s a fact of life, and everyone falls into that catagory.

  58. Chris S

    I think that there are valid points on all sides but the wonderful thing about america is if you don’t like someplace don’t support it. I for one like Hooters as a sports bar, the food is ok and I have had many a good time at them with my friends. as far as Rebecca’s opinion about supporting local resturaunts that is all well and good but how many make food from scratch any more… almost none. I used to love the Montana Club the food was exclent but now somany things come from a box or are premade and trucked in, in the name of quality and consistancy that a place like Hooters is just another place to eat like McDonalds. Give me a good meal, with good service at a fair price, that is all I ask.

  59. rebecca,
    judging by your previous blogs, it is apparent you are not a fan of hooters. is this truely because you do not eat at “chain” resturants or simply because you do not have what it takes to work at one such as hooters? i pride myself on my looks, and if i can make money simply because i am an attractive woman, than so be it. whether im working at hooters or in the bookstore at the university, men look at me. its life. i am a 4.0 student at the university and i am employed at hooters. i have strong family morals and still like to have fun. but excuse me for taking advantage of what god has given me, sounds as if you do the same. i hope you do come in and enjoy a meal at hooters, and i hope i am lucky enough to be the one who waits on you, so we can prove to you that we are much more than a nice rack

  60. goof houlihan

    Goof & Son went to Press Box, but it was way to GrimlyGrizzly. Food a “D” as well. Here’s hopin Hooters has them beat.

  61. Milo’s inside the Union Club is doing a good job at combining food with the bar experience, Goof. Try them the next time you’re in town.

    C’mon, Hooters trolls: drop the passive aggressive act. Just buck up your courage to come right out, like professional journalist Lori Grannis up there, and say I’m an fat, man-hating dyke. Or encourage everyone to drop their preconceptions; Hooters does have good food. But these backhanded phony invitations? They’re not doing your cause any favors. They read like they’re produced by some demented PR department.

  62. Did you have the pancakes?

  63. I was surprised, I was out on that end of Reserve last night for the first time in an age, and that building is going up in a hurry and the sign is even out. I bet it’s ready in time for football season.

  64. Milo’s has pancakes?

  65. Steve Edgar

    Rebecca, E-mail me your mailing address so I can invite you and a guest to our VIP party August 9. You wont want to miss this. It will prob give you some things to talk about. 95 Hooters Girls in a room with U of M Cheerleaders will be worth writing about. Food and Beer on me!

    Steve Edgar
    steve@HootersMontana.Com

  66. wonder if this is just a localized situation or is it a downward trend for the franchise?
    check out http://stumptownlunch.com

  67. There’s only one Hooters in Oregon? Now I know why I like the state so much.

  68. Dang. I might even put on a push-up bra for this.

  69. Tom

    Wow you guys blog alot! I bet you will blog all over the place when hooters is opened and you see those tight orange pants.

  70. i’m in a wheelchair and can’t talk very loud, and they treated very well and the girls looked awesome lets say i left hungry but my eyes where full, not the best food but who cares?

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