Karl Rove is a traitor

by Pete Talbot

You can’t blame Missoula Republicans for bringing in a big name speaker to help raise funds for the party. Democrats do it, too. I can’t think of worse choice than Karl Rove, though.

Remember Valerie Plame? She was the CIA operative who was outed by the Bush administration in an attempt to bolster the lies that led to this never-ending Iraq War. Rove White House associate Lewis “Scooter” Libby took the fall (and Bush promptly commuted his 30-month jail sentence). Rove must have had knowledge of this treason. He was, after all, Bush’s Deputy Chief of Staff. Rove also chaired the White House Iraq Group, a secret internal White House committee to advance the lies of WMD’s and al-Qaida links to Saddam Hussein.

Missoula Republicans should be embarrassed for bringing this sleazeball to Missoula. His Wikipedia profile reads like a how-to of dirty tricks, leaked information and character assassination. (Rove is believed to be behind the 2000 North Carolina primary push poll question: “Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?”)

Rove is beneath contempt. How do you think he ended up with the nickname Turd Blossom?

  1. JC

    They’re already crediting Rove with outlining Obama’s strategy to defeat Clinton.

    “Former Bush chief political strategist Karl Rove already answered the head scratching question GOP strategists are pondering of whether Obama or Clinton is the easier mark for McCain. In an open memo which got almost no media play and zilch public attention last December, Rove spit out six things Obama should do to zap Clinton.”

    I guess Rove figured Obama was the weakest candidate. Wonder if he still thinks that?

    Rove Already Answered the GOP’s Question of Who’s the Weaker Democrat

  2. Rove committed treason. So did Scooter Libby, so did Dick Cheney.

    Valerie Plame was undercover in search of the illegal trade of yellowcake uranium, which is the base substance for – what? – Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    Cheney, Rove & Co, unhappy with Valerie’s husband, Joe Wilson, and his vocal criticism of Bush’s war policies, exposed a U.S. spy to revenge their own criminal activities.

    TREASON: The betrayal of one’s own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

    Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.

    The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution.

    From The Legal Dictionary

  3. Bob Page

    It is only treason when it is a democrat.

  4. Plame was outed by Richard Armitage at State, according to Novak, who protected Armitage until he finally admitted it himself. It’s in Novak’s book Prince of Darkness.

    And Missoula Republicans didn’t bring him here. As far as I know, the state GOP did. He was here before a year and a half ago.

  5. Libby played puppet for Cheney, and was more than willing to perjure himself to play hero. In the end, he’ll be rewarded just like Ollie North, I suppose.

    Perjury must look better on the resume than traitor to the Republican war machine. At least in some circles, I suppose.

    Rove, frustrated that all the ruin he fancied for Plame and Wilson wasn’t going as fast as he had wished, went to Novakula to push the story to the surface – to pique his interest some more. Rove was one of Novakula’s sources.

    Novakula hid behind a fake wall of journalism when he willingly played puppet for the Bush administration. He knowingly exposed a CIA operative.

    What patriot does that?

    I take that back (the fake wall of journalism) – at least he verified the story with a second source…even though both were never named in his columns.

    Criminals. All of them.

  6. Nice fantasy. You source?

  7. petetalbot

    So Carol, did you go? Since the event wasn’t open to the public or the media, can you tell us what Rove’s advice was to Republican candidates such as yourself? How are you going to take back Montana? Nasty push polls? Phony mailings? Maybe invade Canada?

  8. jhwygirl

    Carol – I develop that information from reading many sources. Over years.

    I was taught in school that to really understand things, I needed to read multiple sides to a situation. Helps filter out bias. This, I find, is especially helpful in historical and political situations.

    Reading one – and having it be the guy who exposed a CIA covert agent who was actually trying to stop weapons of mass destruction – really isn’t the best way to form a sense of understanding of what is going on.

    What? You only watch Fox News to understand what is going on in the world today?

    Maybe spend a few days reading some archived stories and multiple sources, and then see what you feel you know.

    How else, really, do you think Fitzgerald proved his case of perjury? He just insisted Libby lied?

  9. jhwygirl

    From today’s Missoulian:

    But Erik Iverson, chairman of the state Republican Party, said local party officials asked the political mastermind to come engage Montana Republicans in a “substantive political discussion.”

  10. From the same article:

    U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., was expected to attend, as well as Republican candidates for attorney general Tim Fox and Lee Bruner, and about a dozen state legislative candidates, Iverson said.

    I’d like to know who those state legislative candidates were. Even though Rove’s visit was closed to the public and the media, surely these folks are proud to tell the voters they attended.

  11. Ayn Rand

    you should hire a pinkerton detinctive.

  12. jhwygirl

    Inspirational speaking for the Montana GOP.

    Lovely. Montana GOP as a mini-me of the Bush Administration.

  13. Big Swede

    I bet the DNC is wishing they had Rove right now to clean up the mess they’re currently in.

  14. JC

    What does the DNC need Rove for? They’ve got Pelosi, Reid and Dean to clean up their mess… “things are being done.” Any day now, you’ll just see.

    It’s the ultimate strategy–the reverse double whammy. Rove never would have thought of it. Lull the republicans into complacency and McCain into a nap, then presto, whammo, one of the candidates rushes ahead at the finish line… snatching??? How’s that go? Victory from the jaws of defeat?

  15. I don’t think you need to lull McCain into a nap; at his age, he has to take one every day.

  16. S&Co.

    The best thing I’ve read yet on the crimes of the Bush gang is the hypothetical legal indictment (written by former federal prosecutor Elizabeth de la Vega) against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Powell — for Conspiracy to Defraud the United States. As she writes, [they] “did knowingly and intentionally conspire to defraud the United States by using deceit, craft, trickery, dishonest means, false and fraudulent representations, including ones made without a reasonable basis and with reckless indifference to their truth or falsity, and omitting to state material facts necessary to make their representations truthful, fair, and accurate, while knowing and intending that their false and fraudulent representations would influence the public and the deliberations of Congress with regard to authorization of a preventive war against Iraq, thereby defeating, obstructing, impairing, and interfering with Congress’ lawful functions of overseeing foreign affairs and making appropriations.”

    Treason might be tough to prove. Fraud is really not all that difficult. Fraud is supportable. Also, I think de la Vega’s fraud indictment, while not as sexy-sounding as a TREASON charge, is much more to the point.

  17. I’m not convinced that the Democrats have overcome their superheroic capacity for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, regardless of their candidate or the lameness of the opponent. Frankly, a victory for the Dems in ’08 will surprise the heck out of me.

  18. jhwygirl

    Treason in the Valerie Plame affair – Fraud in the Iraqi war.

    It’s two different crimes.

    Isn’t that funny. (Ha. Ha. Right?)

    Treason couldn’t be proven because ole’ Scooter preferred to perjure himself, leaving Fitzgerald with a dead end in terms of proof.

    Fraud, though, sounds rather meek. How about High Crimes and Misdemeanors. Pretty much describes the last 7 years.

  19. petetalbot

    Jesus, Chris, I’m hoping you’re a total pessimist. Do you really believe the American people are going to vote for the party that is responsible for the Iraq fiasco, (which also led to more instability in the Middle East and the disdain of our allies throughout the world), or Katrina’s devastating consequences, or a lousy health care system, or an unsustainable energy policy, or a total lack of commitment to addressing global warming, and now our economic meltdown and the collapse of the dollar? You think they’re going to vote for the guy who promises another 100 years in Iraq, and maybe Iran?

    I’ve been heartbroken by the last two presidential elections. McCain’s victory would finish me off.

  20. Pete, I’m not a total pessimist, I’m just not convinced the D’s have their stuff together yet, or that they have really learned much from the last two presidential elections. As jhwygirl points out up thread, there is a lot of sniping going on within the party itself that I think is going to turn off a lot of those folks who might have crossed the line because they don’t like McCain, or those folks that aren’t even convinced that all the perfectly valid reasons you gave to vote the R’s out even exist. And believe me, there are a lot of them.

    I mean, I’m a guy ripe for the picking by the Democratic party, but I’d sure as hell never call myself one. I’ll vote for the D ticket, but I will do it holding my nose with my back turned. I know plenty of other people on the fence that over the last couple weeks are now leaning toward McCain. Many of them think the war sucks but it had to happen “because of the terrorists”; many think Katrina was only a problem for “people too stupid to leave”; many think that “socialized healthcare has been proven a failure everywhere it’s been tried”; etc.

    It bums me out, man.

  21. Fraud sounds meek? So does tax evasion, but it brought down Al Capone.

  22. Nick D

    I’m pretty sure that if the Pinkerton’s were still around, they’d probably have to put out help-wanted ads during the election season when GOP campaigns would cause their ranks to thin.

  23. J-girl, You need to adjust your preconceptions. Your own lack of erudition shows with the hatred that that drips from your writing. Masking intellectual insecurity with emotionalism rarely succeeds.

    Pete, no, I didn’t go. I saw Rove about 18 months ago at the Holts’ place. I won’t pay $100 to see him any more than you would pay $250 to see Hillary.

    And the lineup of who was supposed to attend, according to Chelsi, sounded more like the roster for the upcoming Lincoln-Reagan dinner.

  24. Preconception? You state your knowledge on the subject as coming from reading one book.

    As for emotionalism, well, if I seem upset about the hypocrisy of an administration who lied about weapons of mass destruction to start a war, then turned around and exposed a CIA covert operation that was actually working on halting the trade and underground market in yellowcake uranium, well, yeah – you’re damned right I’m upset about that.

  25. Bob Page


    March 26, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    “Plame was outed by Richard Armitage at State, according to Novak, who protected Armitage until he finally admitted it himself. It’s in Novak’s book Prince of Darkness.”

    Carol, Novak may be the most unreliable source in the media. Not only is he not credible, but he is serving up disinformation, a nice word for lies, in service of the administration. He is much worse than Rove.

  26. Big Swede

    All this talk about the evil genius Rove, but consider this, have you ever seen Karl and the Rev. Wright at the same place, the same time?

  27. petetalbot

    Kinda comparing apples and kumquats there, Swede. Let’s see — “Bush’s Brain,” the Deputy Chief of Staff, dirty tricks architect, Iraq war fomenter and traitor to the CIA v. an elderly African-American preacher in Chicago. And even if you take Wright’s meanderings as “evil” (I don’t), which one has done more damage to America and democracy?

  28. Big Swede

    Your missing the whole fruitbasket. The sinster plan is to have Cheney capture and hold Wright in his Jackson Hole manision, while Rove dons a disguise, taking Wrights place and spewing racist remarks, causing BHO numbers to fall.

    Hold on, there’s a knock at my doo……..

  29. petetalbot

    That’s one vivid imagination you have there, Swede — perhaps a screenplay is in order.

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