How Would You Improve Your Local Paper?

by jhwygirl

The Great Falls Tribune put out a request to its readers a few weeks back saying it was looking for new members to its Great Falls Tribune Reader’s Panel. The original post stated that there would be an 1 1/2 hour meeting, once a month, at noon (or some time in the middle of the day.)

There was a comment to that article – the Tribune has pretty active commenting at its paper – where the commenter lamented that he (or she) would love to participate, but that they weren’t able to make meetings in the middle of the afternoon, but that if they were held in the evening, they’d love to attend.

Now, I can’t link to that November 26th piece because the Great Falls Tribune has now moved its archives beyond a fairly short amount of time into “purchase” zone. That’s unfortunate. But I digress.

Today there was another story calling for readers to apply to its Reader’s Panel….and they’ve apparently changed the time of the monthly meetings to 5:30. Nice, huh? Shows they are taking the panel thing seriously.

Since the original post, I had been thinking about what I’d like to see as changes in the Missoulian. Oh – I know….even the idea that I’d put that kind of (smug) thought into print is maddening to some – but, hey – this is a blog and it is for ideas and I’m not getting paid so criticize away. So there.

So what would I like to see? Well, for one – and this one is beyond their control – I’d like to see more comments. Sometimes I wish more people would comment here, too. So I know how that goes. They can’t be holding comments, though, for moderation before publishing them. That stifles the whole commenting thing.

I’m not just talking about the Missoulian either. We have quite a number of readers from Helena and Butte-Bozeman. Then again – there’s also Missoula’s weekly, The Independent.

I think I’d also like to see more around-the-state articles. I wonder if Lee Newspapers shares those stories freely or with nominal charge? I pick up a lot of news from other papers – sometimes even Missoula news from other papers. I mean, a mining issue in one part of the state is relevant to this part of the state. In Missoula County there’s a bunch of mines. Same with forestry stuff. An example there is that there is some logging proposed by the City of Helena or Lewis & Clark County on some of the lands they own to deal with bug kill. Well – we’ve got beetle infested timber here – and a whole lot of open space lands. Wouldn’t readers be interested in how they’re handling the issue in that part of the state?

The other day, Gallatin County Commissioners expanded an already pretty large gravel pit. Gallatin County recently emergency zoned for gravel pits, county-wide. Missoula’s had some recent gravel pit woes both in Lolo and in Clearwater Junction. I think we’re even getting sued over the one up near Clearwater. So isn’t the expansion of a gravel pit in Gallatin County story even just a little relative?

Look – I’m not saying this stuff to be ditching on the Missoulian. I’m curious what would make more people want to read that paper more. I like holding a fresh, crisp paper and reading through it. Always have.

So I’m curious what you all have to say? What is missing from that paper that doesn’t entice you to purchase it more often? IS there anything in today’s 2008 world that a newspaper – any newspaper – could do to have you purchase or pay to read it more often? Or is reading an actual paper of news getting to be old school fogey?


  1. This is great, j-girl. I will definitely give it some thought. One hurdle I used to have about getting print papers was the hassle in Missoula about getting them to the recycler, especially after having lived other places where curbside was a given. I thought that until, of course, I met the folks at Missoula Valley Recycling at their stand at the Clark Fork Market summer-before-last. For those of you who struggle with what to do with your papers, give them a call and set up your curbside recycling!

  2. Big Swede

    Every time I see a paper I cringe at the thought of some wonderful, life bearing innocent plant, being ripped out by its roots and ground into pulp. These thoughts then expand into nightmares, brought on by visions of man and his filthy machines, which run on fuel and oil spewing billions of pounds of particulates in the process of harvesting, manufacturing, and transporting this antiquated form of communication.

    And for what purpose, you ask? All for the promotion of other capitalistic endeavors which further contaminate this fragile planet.

    Rise up against these machines, which print double coupons of death.

    Cancel your subscription.

  3. ladybug

    Get the marketing manager out of the editorial room. Switch to sustainable annual (hemp, wheat, grass, knapweed) fiber. Contract indepenent outside help reporting news. Ain’t gonna’ happen, it’s Lee, and Lee is all about controlling the message and protecting the status quo (USFS, Smurfit-Stone, Safeway,Wal-Mart).

  4. Freeranger

    I actually sat in on a couple of reader focus sessions the previous editor held back around 03 or 04. Tops on my list then was more Montana news. When I am living in Missoula, I don’t consider myself a Missoulian so much as a Montanan. Everyone who lives in Missoula, even if they don’t have family or friends in other parts of Montana, has been to other parts of Montana for recreation or business.

    Sherry Devlin, the new editor, has made some nice changes. You can depend on the front section being chock full of national and international news. The entertainment sections have had some rational reorganizing.

    She’s done a great job at promoting more women to higher positions, if I am not mistaken.

    I wish she would take a firmer hand at editing some of the younger writers. There’s a tendency to apply feature-style writing to reports of city council meetings. It’s distracting, confusing and wasteful of the small news hole given to local goings-on.

    The website is a total mess. I don’t know where to begin with that.

    The Missoulian has a great history. Many decent writers and photographers have filed through that organization. Harley Hettick’s photographs in the 70s helped inspire me to pursue journalism in college. It’s in the hands of some questionable corporate folks now, however. (In saying that, I don’t mean to impune any editor or writer level employees.)

  5. klemz

    A few of the large dailies where I grew up did this. It’s a good idea. Hard to apply to alt weeklies or any feature-based periodical, though.

    Younger writers? Keila? Wake up, man; career life expectancy of a journalist coming out now: 4-8 years. Keila is a vet.

  6. JC

    I think the Missoulian should just be intellectually honest… and start inserting the daily news filler into its ad sections. It’s gone beyond the 50-50 threshold. Content has reached an all-time low, portion-wise.

    Can anyone say: “state-wide independent daily.”

  7. Jesse Froehling

    Interesting discussion, and one – since my livelihood depends on it – that I always pay attention to. Couple of thoughts.

    But first a disclaimer: None of this should be construed to apply to the Missoulian, or, for that matter, the Indy. This is just my observations of the industry at large.

    I think the public is quick to blame a perceived lack of journalistic prowess on the advertising department. I can tell you from experience that editors don’t kill stories based on advertising concerns. In the four years I’ve been in the industry, that has never happened. Not even once. I think the most likely culprit behind a crummier newspaper is slashed newsrooms. As newsrooms dwindle in size, the surviving reporters are asked to do more and more. Many times, these reporters are the youngest – and the greenest – in the newsroom (they cost less). Soon these reporters – handling the workload that should be divided up among two or three – find themselves in over their heads and they simply don’t have the time to make that extra phone call, to re-read that report, to cultivate sources. It’s not laziness or advertising that kills a newspaper, it’s diminished revenue.

    It works like this: people cancel their subscriptions because they realize they can get the same news for free on the Internet. Matter of fact, they might not even read the paper anymore, because there’s so much available on the blogosphere. Now account reps have lower circulation numbers to present, so advertisers pull out. To make up for the lack of revenue, corporate fires a couple of reporters. Now less gets covered, the paper starts to suck, more people pull their subscriptions, circulation drops further, more advertisers pull out…you get the picture. So I guess my point in this is that all the suggestions at the top are good ones, but the most effective action you can take, if you want a better newspaper, is to subscribe to it and keep reading it.

  8. This isn’t exactly meta-theory journalism, but I like good print/copy.

    By good copy, I mean holding in your hand a nice, crisp paper that doesn’t bleed on your hands, and has pictures you can hold right up to your face and look really close at if you’re interested in it.

    I say this because, the Indy made a transition at some point, can’t pinpoint exactly when but it was fairly recent, to a different type of paper and different level of ink (obviously I’m not privy to alot of production terminology so someone else may want to chime in to clarify). Or it might be the same paper but a different printer or something. In any case, they changed something big. But they also started running more color photos at the same time, which was really cool.

    You know you’d always pick up the Indy, and one of their longer stories would have a really cool wide-angle photo, or a scene shot of natural surroundings or people, and it would be in black and white. It was like the photographer and reader both got jipped. But now alot of those are not only in color, but they’re printed in a new way that makes them much more clear and crisp.

    It’s not exactly the most intellectualized criticism of journalistic content, but when you hold the thing in your hands every week, usually when eating food, it makes a big difference.

    No more ink on my toast.

  9. Survivor

    To Jesse Froehling: Amen. Although I have to quibble with the comment that advertising concerns don’t kill stories. Rarely do such concerns actually kill stories, but they do prevent some stories from being written.

    Anyone who knows how a newsroom operates knows that under the best of circumstances, it’s a freakin’ miracle the paper gets out every day. These days, there isn’t a newspaper in the country that isn’t hanging on by a thread. Newsroom staff sizes have been cut beyond bare bones. I too would like to see improved writing, coverage, editing, etc., but know that it’s physically and mentally impossible to wring any more out of overworked staffers — photographers, editors, page designers AND reporters.

    I dearly hope newspapers survive — and retain their dignity. (Note to Missoulian: Ditch the Post-it Note and banner ads on the front page!) Newspapers offer a permanence, elegance and depth that TV, radio and even the Internet can’t provide.

    P.S. To Freeranger: You give the current editor way, way, WAY too much credit.

  10. JC

    When you build your business model around being an advertiser’s delivery service, the other aspects of your business suffer.

    When you build your business model around delivering a top notch news product, then people will find a way to read it–whether it’s in print or online.

    The globalization of online news has made it imperative that local newspapers learn the distinction between what they are offering their customers: something to read, or something to sell. i.e. who are their real customers and what is the real reason behind their service?

    I have no reason to subscribe to what has become an ad delivery service. I have subscribed to the Missoulian and other local newspapers my whole adult life. But I am about to quit doing so.

    The history of newsprint is that of news. Plain and simple. Give me a local or statewide newspaper that is chock full of good content, and light on the ads, and I will buy it. Even if it costs considerably more than it does today.

    I’m sick and tired of sorting out the ad inserts into my recycling pile every morning before I can get to the content. I never look at any of them.

    I measure the worth of the Missoulian by the ratio of ad inserts (one recycling pile) to content (another pile). And the ratio has increasingly tilted in favor of the ads over time.

    Give me a great statewide online news service that offers local coverage, and delivers a print version light on ads everyday, I’d subscribe to it in a heartbeat and dump my Missoulian subscription. I’ll get my national/international news and opinions/editorials on my own, thank you very much. I prefer my choices of national features and opinions to those of the local editorial page and feature page editors, anyday.

    And bring back an editor and opinion writer of the caliber of Sam Reynolds. Anybody remember Sam? He was a person who’s opinion I valued (even when I didn’t agree), and who knew how to whip a writer and his writings into shape. Give me that, and I’ll continue to buy the local rag.

    I watch TV via a dvr and never watch commercials. I want my print news sources the same. I’m happy to pay for both. If I want a rag full of ads, there’s hundreds of racks around town offering a multitude of free publications full of ads. I can get them there if I want them.

    And don’t anybody try to explain the business of the newspaper industry to me, and why I’m whacked. I work in marketing and advertising. I know a failing business model when I see one.

  11. I appreciate that the papers are asking readers what they want. And I hope they get a resounding chorus of: MORE LOCAL REPORTING.

    Here’s why: AP, Reuters, and the other wires can all provide content for online services like Google, Yahoo, etc. But, there ain’t nobody who is going to generate the content for a place as big as Montana if it isn’t the Montana newspapers.

    Now I respect the news gathering activities of KPAX, KUFM, and the small handful of other media outlets that still have a newsroom. In particular, I like that Montana Public Radio has reports now from Missoula, Helena, the Bitterroot and the Flathead. But, the fact remains that even those outlets rely upon the AP, since it takes a lot of time and effort to produce a daily piece for radio or TV.

  12. I truly appreciate someone outside the four walls of the Missoulian office asking these questions. Really. And there are good criticisms here. Really. That said, some of this really just leaves my brain hurting as I try to understand where people are coming from.

    JC’s comment particularly: “I watch TV via a dvr and never watch commercials. I want my print news sources the same.”

    So apparently you want…what….someone with professional reporting and writing skills telling you the news with no business model to keep them paid so they can keep telling you the news?

    What is that? A news-slave? A news-monk? Anchorman Jesus, making hundreds of meaty local news stories out of one heavy-metal-laden fish he pulled from the Clark Fork (a fish you might not have heard was laden with said metals if the Missoulian or the Indy hadn’t reported it?)

    That’s cool. Me, I’d love to have a professional chef who shows up at my house and makes dinner every day. For free, of course.

    Ok I’m being bitchy. But seriously.

    I keep daily watch on this and other local (and generally business-model-free) blogs and truly appreciate what they’re about. As someone who never took a single journalism class in my life, I will never knock non-paid journalism (or non-trained journalism) simply because of those qualifiers. Good writing and reporting is good writing and reporting, no matter the education, motives, or paycheck behind it. I have huge respect for people who do good journalism without expectation of a paycheck. (For the record, I’m a participant in two business-model-free media projects as well, here and here)

    But the kind of journalism that involves even a modicum of editorial checks and balances, where standards of sourcing and objectivity are held to be even somewhat sacrosanct, and where multiple reporters can be thrown at a story that’s important to local people on a moment’s notice — all of that requires a business model to sustain in the long term. And since readers aren’t willing to pay $10 or $20 per issue for the paper, that means advertising.

    So cmon. I love discussion about how the Missoulian or other papers can improve coverage. But let’s talk about reality.

    As to advertiser influence on editorial focus, having spent more than half a decade at the Missoulian, and having spent 15 years as a fulltime freelancer for major and minor publications prior to that, I’ve personally never once seen an actual case of direct advertiser influence on a story. I’m sure it happens, I’m not naive enough to say otherwise; but it happens so rarely as to be a major exception rather than the rule.

    I’m sure there are influences that are more subtle, too.

    But there are influences subtle and profound that affect what you read on business model-free blogs as well. One might point to jhwygrl’s motives for not revealing her identity. If someone has a problem with what’s written on this blog, who do they call for a correction? Where’s the office number? I’m not denigrating, I’m just trying to get us talking on a rational playing-field. There are ethical, personal, and professional issues that affect everything we read everywhere. Of course.

    So. What’s wrong with the Missoulian? I am the first to recognize problems. I’m probably the last who should opine publicly, if for no other reason than job preservation in an era of 50-cent Lee Enterprises shares.

    But frankly, it’s pretty tiresome (to me, an individual who should never be construed as a spokesman of my employer) to hear folks lambaste the paper for doing the things that it needs to do simply to continue existing.

  13. JC

    Joe, you’re reading my comments in the extreme. I don’t expect the Missoulian, or any other daily paper to put out the print for free. And please don’t take it personally. You do great work!

    On the other hand, I don’t see that Lee’s sacrificing the quality of local newspapers to pay off the $722 million loss it wrote down earlier this year, related to it’s $1.4 billion purchase of Pulitzer, as a good thing either.

    And I still don’t see how I, as a consumer of the Missoulian, should feel that the reduced quality of product that I pay for and is delivered to my door every day is a good tradeoff for bad business decisions by the home office.

    How did Sam Reynolds put it?

    “Sam Reynolds of The Missoulian coined the phrase “editorial transubstantiation” to describe the belief (incredible to him) that an unsigned editorial can express the opinion of something so impersonal as a newspaper. It was like the leap of faith, he said, that is involved in believing that bread and wine are transubstantiated into the blood and body of Christ.”

  14. I do want to thank everyone who is taking the time to participate – even if only to read.

    I will note that Missoulian reporter Keila Szpaller took an interest (along with, apparently, editor Sherry Devlin).

    I didn’t write this piece with any other goal than to try and generate constructive positive input. As I said, I noticed the original November 26th article in the Great Falls it’s been something “on my mind.” I have an email inbox full of things that are “on my mind” and if even 1/2 of that stuff sees the light of these pages, this blog will have plenty of material damn near forever.

    Now – there are two ways to say something, and I think an overwhelming theme of what I’ve gotten out of these comments (as I truly am concerned about the nationwide suffering of newspaper newsrooms around the country) is that people want to see more news. More local news.

    That makes sense – at least here. We’re probably all news addicts.

    So I wonder now if some of that solution isn’t to write more pieces, but shorter pieces? To at least get some coverage of, say, the Board of County Commissioners.

    Instead of just printing that 533,000 jobs were lost nationally in November, why not do a quick search of the archives of papers around the state and note some significant job cuts …or even just tie that story together with the significant job losses in the timber industry. Or give the industry spokesperson a call – they’d probably be able to whip a figure out for you pretty quickly, given they’d love the attention – and ask for a quick statement on losses? (I mention timber industry because it really is kinda the main industry in Montana, I’m reckoning. Other than lobbying – and I’ve not read about any lobbyists losing any jobs. Unfortunately.)

    So when JC is talking about the overwhelming amount of advertising, what he’s is saying (in the inverse) is that there isn’t enough news in the paper to make him want to keep buying it.

    It is a catch-22, though, isn’t it? Newspapers must sell advertising to function.

    So another thing I’ve been pondering….

    Nationally people are wanting to get their news online more and more – it is what is hurting the fiber portion of the news and why advertising is falling off – so how does a newspaper that has an online service make the advertising demonstrably effective for the advertised? Could adding an “today’s online specials” coupons – maybe discounts that are available for only that day, or only that week, or only the weekend – be something that would make us online readers more likely to read through the advertising? Certainly if it were effective, any advertiser would be able to notice. And then, perhaps, there might be an advertising product that advertisers might be willing to pay a premium.

    I would like to reiterate something in the original post. About commenting on the stories. That stuff really can’t be censored, unless someone is out there inciting violence or using offensive language. Stifling the conversation is really a no-starter. Frankly, on the inverse, controversy breeds traffic. Take it from us here at 4&20. We know. Beyond that, one never knows what might come out of a lively bit of conversation…leads perhaps? For a bigger and better story? Or another slant to the story?

    I know it goes on. I’ve heard it from more than just one or two people.

    One of the thing that a place like this does is it allows for near instant interaction. Instant, I guess, because anyone can step in and say anything at anytime. And you can come back and see if anyone had anything to say back to what you had to say.

    There’s been recent state court ruling on comments – even anonymous – on blogs. Right out of Billings, right from the pages of the Billings Gazette. So there really isn’t some liability on the papers part about the content of comments. Still – if something is stirred up, someone may want to go on the record about it. And still, if something stirs up controversy, that’s pre-warmed up news for future stories. Doesn’t that help? Knowing what people want to read before it’s even written?

    Anyways…that’s some stuff I got this morning. All before coffee (as a warning or an excuse, depending on how this came off). Now I’m off to try and find some reference to that Billings Gazette court case, and if I find it, I’ll come back to this comment and add the link.

    GO GRIZ!

  15. goof houlihan

    I’ll use “you” as, “you the generic reporter”.

    You’re on a deadline for reporting the meeting. Report on it, then do a follow up the next day where you investigate the issue a little better, “independently”, meaning “without your own personal axe” and “write down the issues and call people about them”.

    A good part of the reason that televised commission meetings are so valuable is to keep newspaper reporters on task about what goes on at meetings. No more dreaming up the ideal issue and then fitting the quotes in to make the best story. We can watch the meeting, then wonder what meeting the reporter attended? It wasn’t the one I saw on tv.

    I want more than the meeting on the in depth follow up.

    What’s funny to me is that there may have indeed been a golden age of journalism, but not in the local papers I’ve seen from the last century. Used to be lots and lots of gossipd I’d find extremely boring if reported on today.

    Avoid the idea that featuring local issues is some how “boosterism” and the only way to avoid that is to not print good stories or go negative on anything local. Report the good stuff, as good stuff.

    Stay honest on the editorial page. If you’re wrong, admit it, especially on the facts you use to back up an opinion.

    I don’t have any problem with advertising. Sell all you can.

  16. Ed Childers

    OK, too many serious comments.
    My experience after 40 years of Missoulian subscriptions:
    Sometimes the Missoulian goes off in a direction I dislike. Sometimes the editorials are icky, or the Letters look all pick-and-choosed (?) in ways I find offensive.
    Sometimes the Carrier doesn’t get to my house and I have to call the paper and browse the ‘net and watch TV and wait and sometimes my coffee is all gone by the time the paper gets here. I prefer to have coffee and eat breakfast while I read the funnies and the Letters. Things go better with coffee.
    The funnies! I almost forgot them. Sometimes, when the paper’s late and the Letters are awful and the editorial is too and the news is stuff I already know, there’s one part of the paper that assures my continuing subscription: the funnies.
    Go Griz.

  17. JC

    Here’s a crazy idea. Lets look at the value of the evening newspaper, ala Great Falls Leader.

    As more and more people get their news online, the national news that shows up in the daily is yesterdays news. And I’ve already seen it and read it. I no longer read national/international news in the Missoulian. No fault of the local dailies. It’s just that the 24/7 news cycle online is making 24-36 hour old nat/int news stale.

    Goof makes a good point about the need for in depth local coverage. But if we have a city/county meeting tonight, there isn’t time for in depth reporting in tomorrow’s news. And for the day after, it is out of the news cycle, so we don’t get it. But if the reporter could put a morning’s worth of work into an in depth and get it out that night, it becomes valuable.

    When I grew up in GF, there was an afternoon paper, the Leader. It brought today’s national and international news, and in depth reporting from yesterday’s local and state events. Everybody loved it until its demise in 1969. So if I had the choice between spending my evening reading today’s nat/int news in hard copy, or online, that would be a worthwhile choice. From what I remember, the Bozeman Chronicle used to be an afternoon only paper back in the cowboy days.

    I’m not saying that moving from a morning to an afternoon/evening paper would solve all of the problems of dailies, but it offers an interesting alternative model that answers some of the problems we have outlined here. And it might provide a way for hard copy to stay relevant in the new online news world.

    And combine that with the idea of having a statewide daily, delivered in the early evening, meant to be read after dinner, instead of turning on the tube, or going online. Sell it on the corner downtown (like the Leader used to be) and deliver it to the home. It would specialize in bringing todays nat/int news, and in coverage of local and state government news. It would have today’s breaking news from in-state, and compete with the local tv evening news.

    Give me a couple of top notch editorialists to write for it–one from the right and one from the left. And put the whole thing online with a good commenting environment.

    Maybe its just a pie-in-the-sky idea. But that’s what it is going to take for dailies to survive if people like me and many others turn away from the traditional model.

  18. klemz

    Hear, hear, Joe. I agree 95 percent. I’d agree 100 percent, but I disagree that we’re not both looking from the deck of the Hindenburg. That’s not to say our respective publications, but the industry at large.

  19. You say Hindenberg, I say Titanic. ;^)

    JC, there’s no doubt that the debt that saddles Lee from the Pulitzer purchase is having a huge and deleterious effect on the company. I probably shouldn’t commit to print what I think about that, but I won’t take issue with your asssertions at all.

    I do sincerely worry about how quality journalism will fare if daily local papers can’t survive this shift to online delivery. It will take an awful lot of jhwygirls giving their own free time to make up for that loss (I hope that doesn’t sound pretentious; I just mean that it would take a lot of volunteer hours to make up for the loss of a dozen professional journalists in a town of this size). I’m still guardedly hopeful about the long-term future of this field I’ve fallen into, but it’s looking like we’re in for a rough patch. Anybody notice Lee’s stock price this week?

  20. klemz

    Right, Titanic is more apt. I’m sure the rich people will get out just fine.

  21. Matthew Koehler

    Suggestions for the Missoulian:

    More investigative reporting…More investigative reporting…More investigative reporting. Far too many important issues facing Western Montana get boiled down to “he said, she said” stories that barely serve to scratch the surface. Who really benefits from this type of journalism?

    Less mindless, uncritical, re-printing of press releases from the government, corporations, etc and calling it a “news story.” Remember this whole fiasco? Basically admitting, “It’s in the corporation’s press release so it must be true?” See:

    Hmmm…seems pretty strange, considering the economic crisis currently facing this country, that we’d even have to debate that the timber industry’s woes are due to the housing collapse, low lumber prices, plummeting demand for wood products, etc.

    I like some of the changes to the Missoulian’s editorial page, but I think the Sunday opinion section is sorely lacking. I’d like to see the opinion section expanded to include 4 pages of the Territory section on Sundays. Two whole pages could be devoted to opeds from local writers on important local issues. Other papers have an expanded Sunday opinion section and I think it would be well received by Missoulian readers.

    The Missouian website needs some major work. More articles and info that make it into the print edition need to be available on-line. The Missoulian also needs to embrace comments on its website rather than looking to limit, or even censor comments. See:

    Suggestions for the Indy:

    More use of color in the Indy. Many times the layout could be improved to make the most use of color, without costing the Indy a dime. Plus the Indy is lucky enough to have one of the West’s best photographers. Let’s see Chad’s impressive work in full color every time!

    Re-working page 7 and 8 so that the Etc column becomes an editorial from the Indy and removing the Week in Review because it’s more like a “Weak in Review” and just doesn’t offer anything, except taking up space.

    And how about more opinion pieces and columns from local writers? Could, perhaps, the Writers on the Range page include a more local commentary every other week?

  22. (If this were the bread game, and judging by all the self-masturbation in this thread, I’d say it is, Mr. Koehler would be facing a most raunchy delicacy right about now. He doesn’t deserve that. You all should quit the self-insinuating insider chatter and let Mr. Koehler keep his dignity.)

  23. klemz

    It’s page 6 and 7, but that’s all you said that I’ll disagree with.

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