This Post Is An Attack On The Democratic Party


by lizard

The midterm elections of 2006 saw strong national Democratic gains in Congress due in large part to their opportunistic co-optation of the anti-war sentiment against Bush’s preemptive war doctrine. People like me voted for politicians like Jon Tester based on the stated intentions of politicians like Nancy Pelosi, that giving them congressional control would mean a check on Bush’s recklessness. I was very happy that Jon Tester won a squeaker of a race here in Montana.

To highlight the sentiment before the 2006 elections, here is the lead in to a NYT article published November 2nd, 2006:

A substantial majority of Americans expect Democrats to reduce or end American military involvement in Iraq if they win control of Congress next Tuesday and say Republicans will maintain or increase troop levels to try to win the war if they hold on to power on Capitol Hill, according to the final New York Times/CBS News poll before the midterm election.

But Democrats failed to do anything substantial to address Bush’s preemptive war based on lies. Two years later, the American electorate gave Democrats the White House with the election of a president who capitalized on the broad disgust over Bush’s destructive eight year reign, and though Obama was more hawkish on the campaign trail than many in the anti-war movement would have liked, there was hope that the change promised would include getting us out of Iraq (so we could fight the “right” war in Afghanistan).

Now it’s 2011, and despite the Obama administration’s best efforts to keep as many as 10,000 troops in Iraq, that number has reportedly been conceded by administration officials to potentially be as low as 3,0000.

Administration and Pentagon officials had hoped to secure Iraqi-government approval for a larger troop presence in Iraq into 2012, with the U.S. recently pushing for a final figure of around 10,000. But administration officials have lately come to believe that approval would be hard to get for anything more than a few thousand troops.

So the administration will continue to reluctantly draw down troops from the total political/economic disaster that has been our eight year occupation of Iraq, but that won’t stop them from continuing to deploy a dangerous, incompetent foreign policy.

Like, for example, with Iran.

A used-car salesmen, a DEA agent posing as a Mexican drug cartel member, and an alleged plan to assassinate a Saudi Arabian ambassador. This absurd plot (which professionals like Ray McGovern are trying to digest) has apparently provided the Democrats an opportunity for some more unnecessary saber rattling against Iran. And to ratchet up the tension, Democrat Diane Feinstein goes to Fox news of all places to say irresponsible shit like this:

The chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee says the thwarted Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States shows the “collision course” that awaits unless Iran changes directions.

“To cross to the other side of the world and try and attack in this country is an escalation,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said on “Fox News Sunday.” “And that’s what concerns us.”

This “collision course” with Iran is something neocons and their Israeli allies have been lusting after for quite some time, and Obama is either powerless to shift that trajectory, or willingly condones this dangerous rhetorical escalation.

Based on his casual use of the US military to impose regime change in Libya under the cover of NATO and “humanitarian intervention”, I tend to think the latter.

Oh, and I guess over the weekend we now have troops advisers heading to Uganda to help dispose of the Lord’s Resistance Army:

The White House says the first troops arrived in Uganda on Wednesday. Ultimately, they will also deploy in South Sudan, the Central African Republic and Congo.

A White House announcement said the troops will be combat-equipped but are not to engage in combat except in self-defense. It said they will aid in removing LRA leader Joseph Kony “from the battlefield.”

America, global cop. Fuck yeah.

This post is a clear attack on the Democratic party, and at this point, I really don’t care what party loyalists want to say about the messenger. Call me morally bankrupt, half-baked, incoherent, and self-righteous. My message remains the same: Democrats fail by design.

I’ve been waiting 6 years for Democrats to shift the dangerous trajectory of our foreign policy. I’ve voted for politicians who pay lip service to doing just that, then, once in office, they do the opposite.

It’s time to step outside the two wings of the war party. It’s time to #occupysanity.


  1. Yeah, the moral thing to do is certainly to ignore the LRA. I mean, what’s a little rape, murder, sexual slavery, and forcing children to become soldiers?

    Just look at those well-known corporate tools at the ICC:

    According to the allegations set out in the warrants of arrest, the LRA is an armed group which “has established a pattern of brutalization of civilians by acts including murder, abduction, sexual enslavement, mutilation, as well as mass burnings of houses and looting of camp settlements; that abducted civilians, including children, are said to have been forcibly recruited as fighters, porters and sex slaves and to take part in attacks against the Ugandan army (UPDF) and civilian communities”.

    Terms like “global cop” play well to the TEA Party crowd, too, but I think helping to prevent the murder of thousands of people is the right thing to do.

    • lizard19

      i think you’re incredibly naive to continue believing US foreign policy is concerned about preventing humans misery.

      Bahrain? they host our 5th fleet. Yemen? they let us blow up terrorists (and US citizens, but that distinction is gone) Colombia? so what if they kill a few labor activists. Haitians? deport ’em. Palestinians? slaughter ’em. Libya? so what if African immigrant workers are being targeted by the “freedom fighters” (which include elements associated with the great evil al-qaeda).

    • Steve W

      Pogie, is it your contention that the military bases we maintain in 144 countries world wide have a primarily humanitarian function?

      • I didn’t get that from Pogie’s comment at all. What I did get was best put by the “somewhat popular blogger, Tbogg, hosted at FireDogLake.

        This not the head of some state. This not us invading some country.

        This is tracking down and killing a genocidal maniac who is slaughtering and enslaving some of the poorest and most vulnerable people on earth and has been doing so for years. He is not someone to be captured and rehabilitated.

        And all of the harrumphing and chin-stroking and arguments about the unitary executive and war powers and slippery slopes and motives and claims that America lacks the moral authority to go after this monster is all well and good on blogs and at think tanks and during painfully earnest late night discussions over coffee and brandy, however, in harsh light of day, the sooner this guy is dead the better off the world will be.

        If his head shows up in a sniper scope – put a bullet through it. If he is spotted and drone can get him – make him a greasy spot on the ground.

        Afterwards we can indulge in all of the high moral one-upmanship and national self-flagellation we require to sooth our tortured souls. And, as an added bonus, the adults in Uganda and the Congo and the Sudan might be able to rest a little easier knowing that their boys won’t be forced to kill them and their daughters won’t become rape slaves because America was too busy having a crisis of conviction.

        • Steve W

          I didn’t get that Lizard’s post was exclusively about Uganda or the Congo. I thought it was about the complete military mindset of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party.

          Pogie zeroed in on and only addressed about 20% of the article, while the article over all is clearly addressing the militaristic mindset of the US Empire as expressed through the two failed major parties.

          Based on Pogie’s reply, I’d have to give him a D in comprehension. He got that Lizard was skeptical about the latest US foreign entanglement, but he totally missed the context.

          If you, Pogie, and the person you quoted want to go on record as denying that the US is and operates as an Empire, then great, why not just say that. Apparently you would rather believe our military is a branch of the”Save the Children” foundation.

          i think after we were lied to in Iraq with no sanction at all on the liars that we would be extremely stupid to believe anything coming from the top of either failed major political party. i guess that’s just cynicism on my part about the people who built the biggest largest most expensive and most efficient killing machine in the world. I guess I should view them as my benevolent mentors, but i just can’t.

          The structural failure of the Democratic Party comes from the two party system and from it’s complete takeover by the big money people. The Repos are also structurally failed. Any 3rd party that attempt to arise is structurally failed, because trying to shove the whole country down the Red chute or the Blue chute is stupid, inefficient and it’s not democratic nor republican in nature.

          People are pluralistic and we need a pluralistic way to express our political will. IMHO.

  2. d.g.

    humans’ ? human? liz does 4& 20 a disservice by reacting so knee jerkily to any engagement in dynamic discussion. Pogie makes some damned good points. Acknowledge and engage, liz. Or start your own blog (if not country.)

    • lizard19

      concern troll.

      your first comment on this blog had mild-mannered Pete Talbot threatening to ban you. impressive.

      if you have something to say about the substance of this post, say it, otherwise i will be more than happy to show you the figurative door.

  3. ladybug

    Yes, Pogie, the moral thing to do is……

    drone strikes, flood Mexico with more weapons, mass deportations, starve poor Africans and Asians, kill off anything living in the way of oil development, and so on. What moral policies have I missed for which we can thank Democrats. This is Clinton all over again, on steroids. Remember 1993? A lot like 2007 and 2008. Nothing!

  4. Ingemar Johansson

    Come on guys. Gather round, join hands with Pogie, Wolfgar, and the cowgirls and sing.

    “All we are sayiiiinnngg

    Is give war a chance”.

    • lizard19

      do you know what’s really sad, i know more about foreign policy than your GOP front-runner, who stated on Meet the Press he doesn’t know what a neoconservative is.

      • OK, Lizard, tell me what a “neo-conservative” is?

        • lizard19

          i would point someone like Cain who clearly has no idea to PNAC (Project for the New American Century), but there is obviously a longer history there.

          • As the lawyers would say, that’s a non-response response. I didn’t ask you to tell me who is cited as being neocons. I asked you to tell me what it means.

            • lizard19

              no, i did not tell you who is cited as being a neo-con, i linked to a brief description of a central document created by a neoconservative think tank that describes their political philosophy regarding America’s role in the world.

              when i have more time, i will try and give you a lengthier reply. gotta go now.

            • Steve W

              Dave, I believe it was Lizard who was kind enough to post “The Power of Nightmares” which traces both the history and development of not just the Neocons, but also of their philosophic brethren in Al Quida.

              The Neocons started out as Strausians and Al Quidaians started out as Bannaians.

              A Neo-conservative believes that Gov. deception is OK, even good, particularly if the ends justify the deception. They believe that an elite class of humans should rule, but should do so as unobtrusively as possible. They believe in the projection of American military force around the world as long as it serves their own utopian ends, ie the “goodness” of American elite institutions

              The article “The End Of History and the Last Man” is considered a manifesto/declaration/communique of Neo-conservative thought from the early 1990s. It’s particularly quaint in view of world events, wouldn’t you say Dave? Yet the momentum is fierce and costly.

              Lizard’s link also has info on other Neo-con writings and on some of the people who are identified with the Neo-cons as members/contributors.

              • Was Daniel Patrick Moynihan a student of Strauss? And we have to point out that Francis Fukuyama has discredited his own work.

                But I’ve heard all of what you say before and, actually having read Strauss, Bloom, Bellow and others I think the modern use of the word “neocon” far diverges from its etymological genesis.

                What I think you’ve succeeded in is painting the caricature that is the common wisdom. But I’m much more interested in Lizard’s view.

                Oh, and BTW, I’m not defending neoconservatism. I’ve been highly critical of it since at least the Reagan administration.

      • Ingemar Johansson

        Liz, you calling Cain stupid?

        How racist of you.

  5. Turner

    Your post is an attack on parts of the Obama administration’s foreign policy. Are you getting a similar attack ready against the administration’s domestic agenda?

    For example, do you think Obama is only pretending to try to create jobs (while the Republicans really care about jobs)? Do you think Obama has just been pretending to help gays?

    I’m not conceding anything you said about Obama’s foreign policy. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

  6. The Neo con movement was around much earier than the 1990s and it basically involved people from the left moving to the right. Kristol is widely credited as being one of the founders of the movement back in the late 1960’s and into the 1970’s.

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1075556/neoconservatism

  7. jack ruby

    There isn’t going to be a war with Iran. It would be too fair of a fight.

  8. So let’s get this straight. You claim this is an attack on “the Democratic Party” because “Democrats fail by design”, right? It’s funny that you don’t show the ‘design flaw’ you are attacking. I’ll happily admit that your post is a good anti-war condemnation of the Obama administration. But if the only evidence you have of a ‘design flaw’ in Democrats is that they haven’t accomplished what you want, and they say “dangerous” words you don’t like, then you haven’t really addressed your thesis at all, have you?

    I think your readers ‘get’ that you won’t vote for Democrats. Good for you. But if that’s the best attack you have …

    Good luck storming the castle!

    (If only you had a wheelbarrow!)

  9. lizard19

    America: can’t provide health insurance for over 40 million people, but will eagerly deploy its resources to another continent to kill bad guys.

  10. Another chapter in the Dem civil war – thank you lizard.

    Remember, the GOP is the party of the big tent – now that you are figuring out who the Dems really are take a good look at the GOP, and who’s values are most like your own –

  11. Turner

    I see that Tester is again leading the charge against Obama’s jobs bill — this time a pared-down version of it dealing with teachers, cops, and firefighters. Along with Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson, he continues to trash whatever Obama tries to do for our country in order to establish his Republican-like credentials.

    His calculation seems to be that Montanans are going to reward him for undercutting his own party and being more and more like Denny Rehberg. This started, I think, with his vote against the Dream Act.

    The calculation is wrong. This anti-Obama strategy is going to kill him with mainstream Democrats. He’s too much like Rehberg to win now.

    Brian Schweitzer, who’s available and popular with most Montanans, must primary Tester or convince him to step aside if Rehberg is to be defeated. Draft Brian Schweitzer!

    • Onewhoknows

      You’d vote for a guy who strong-armed an eminent domain bill that handed power to foreign corporations.

      Schweitzer also cheered the death of medical marijuana and under his watch the feds came into this state with unwarrented searches and and illegally harassed Montana citizens.

      really?

      • Turner

        I don’t agree with everything Schweitzer has done, but he’s the only high-profile Democrat capable of beating Rehberg now.

  12. lizard19

    for those concerned about our government assassinating US citizens, the body count is now 3. the latest victim? that evil terrorist, al-Awlaki’s, 16 year old son.

    The teenager, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who was born in Denver in 1995, and his 17-year-old Yemeni cousin were killed in a U.S. military strike that left nine people dead in southeastern Yemen.

    The young Awlaki was the third American killed in Yemen in as many weeks. Samir Khan, an al-Qaeda propagandist from North Carolina, died alongside Anwar al-Awlaki.

    we’ve long since crossed the rubicon, and i’m afraid, at this point, there’s no turning back.




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