END THE AFGHANISTAN WAR NOW!

by lizard

On September 11th, 2001, America was attacked by terrorists. Most of those alleged terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, but instead of retaliating against the Saudis, America’s cowboy-in-chief launched wars of aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq. Wars like that, waged “preemptively” against countries that posed no imminent threat, is the kind of stuff Nazi leaders were hung for.

America’s military might wasn’t unleashed against Saudi Arabia because they are our friends, almost as special as our Israeli friends. Remember, when every single commercial plane across American airspace was grounded after 9-11, America’s special Saudi friends were allowed to fly home.

Considering that kind of privilege, I was kind of surprised when the Saudi Arabian role in the 9-11 attacks became New York Times news a few weeks ago. Here’s the lead in:

For more than a decade, questions have lingered about the possible role of the Saudi government in the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, even as the royal kingdom has made itself a crucial counterterrorism partner in the eyes of American diplomats.

Now, in sworn statements that seem likely to reignite the debate, two former senators who were privy to top secret information on the Saudis’ activities say they believe that the Saudi government might have played a direct role in the terrorist attacks.

“I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia,” former Senator Bob Graham, Democrat of Florida, said in an affidavit filed as part of a lawsuit brought against the Saudi government and dozens of institutions in the country by families of Sept. 11 victims and others. Mr. Graham led a joint 2002 Congressional inquiry into the attacks.

Who thinks this story has legs? Probably just extortion for campaign donations.

Meanwhile, the campaign for hearts and minds in Afghanistan has been effectively slaughtered.

16 dead civilians, 9 of then children, bodies burned. Varying accounts of how many soldiers involved, but the “official” story is one soldier, in custody.

maybe this would be a good time to say STOP THIS STUPID FUCKING WAR RIGHT NOW GODDAMN IT!

But no, even 2014 is too soon for some assholes.

What should US soldiers—who it must be noted are NOT all psychotic maniacs—do for the next two years, after the images of pissing on corpses, burning the Koran, and now a Haditha-like massacre incites more violence? Get them the fuck out of there, Mr. President. This is your Tet (says PJ Crowley).

Too bad it’s an election year, and Obama’s brand features bad-ass, terrorist-killing foreign policy chops. Can’t confuse the consumers voters this close to the used-by date in November.

But honestly, how the hell can anyone justify continued boots on the ground to 2014? Can’t we just shift to total remote control killing from air-conditioned cubicles in Nevada?

Keeping US soldiers in Afghanistan for political purposes is dereliction of duty. It never made sense to begin with, and now things are really going to go to shit.

It’s time to end the war in Afghanistan as soon as logistically possible.


  1. larry kurtz

    Uzani, his army with fists open. Uzani, his army with fists closed.

    Shaka, when the walls fell.

  2. lizard19

    speculation that multiple soldiers were drunk and laughing as they went on their rampage.

  3. Jack ruby

    The obvious connections between the 9/11 hijackers and the pakistani and saudi governments have been known for a long time. The real “conspiracy” regarding 9/11 is why the US government ignores these obvious connections.

    • lizard19

      well, some would say those at the top of the US government were never interested in a legitimate investigation or going after the real perpetrators because they knew the 9-11 attack was a golden moment to exploit our fear and bewilderment in order to shape the New American Century.

  4. Craig Moore

    Most of those alleged terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, but instead of retaliating against the Saudis, America’s cowboy-in-chief launched wars of aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Sorry to interfere in your righteous rant, but you fail to address why Afghanistan was selected: http://articles.cnn.com/1998-08-20/us/9808_20_us.strikes.01_1_sudanese-television-bin-mullah-abdullah?_s=PM:US

    U.S. officials say the six sites attacked in Afghanistan were part of a network of terrorist compounds near the Pakistani border that housed supporters of Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden.

    American officials say they have convincing evidence that bin Laden, who has been given shelter by Afghanistans Islamic rulers, was involved in the bombings of the east African embassies.

    In the Sudanese capital, Khartoum, the El Shifa Pharmaceutical Industries factory which U.S. officials say was housing chemical weapons was also attacked…

    The president (Clinton) said he ordered the strike against bin Laden and his compatriots because of compelling information they were planning additional terrorist attacks against our citizens and others with the inevitable collateral casualties and .. seeking to acquire chemical weapons and other dangerous weapons.

    • Ingemar Johansson

      You slumming again Craig?

    • lizard19

      hmmm, what if the Taliban tried to find a way to hand over the Osama?

      In an exclusive interview, Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, Taliban’s last foreign minister, tells Al-Jazeera that the Taliban government, which then controlled Afghanistan, made several proposals to the United States to present the al-Qaeda leader for trial for his involvement in plots targeting U.S. facilities during the 1990s.

      “Even before the (9/11) attacks, our Islamic emirate had tried — through various proposals — to resolve the Osama issue. One such proposal was to set up a three-nation court, or something under the supervision of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC),” Muttawakil says.

      “But the U.S. showed no interest in it. They kept demanding we hand him over, but we had not relations with the U.S., no agreement of any sort. They did not recognize our government.”

      11 years later, and the reasoning for invading and occupying Afghanistan is still a bunch of bullshit.

  5. Ingemar Johansson

    Any body check the whereabouts of Bush/Cheney this weekend?

  6. “alleged terrorists”? I’m kind of thinking that if they attacked us in the manner they did, they are terrorists, indisputably.

    • lizard19

      “if” they attacked us in the manner they did. the court of public opinion may be convinced, but there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical.

  7. Jack ruby

    I don’t think there is any doubt ‘they’ attacked us as they did, our govt wants to avoid public revelations and discussion about who all can be included in ‘they’. IMO

    • lizard19

      do you think ‘they’ includes all 19 terrorist passengers as stated in the 9-11 commission report?

      • Jack ruby

        This sounds like a trap.

        I dont have any serious doubts about the fact that airplanes were hijacked by islamic terrorists and flown into the WTC, the Pentagon and one crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. I’m talking about who was supporting them and who knew about it. Some of that info (particularly in reference to Saudi Arabia which is what Graham is probably referring to) is in the actual report and redacted and undoubtedly most of the really explosive parts would never see the light of day.

        If you want to go heavy into conspiracy talk and bring it back to the US you could bring up the close close connections between the intelligence services and elites in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, given the documented support of the Pakis and Saudis you could then make the leap that the US supported, knew about or tacitly condoned the attacks. I dont make that leap. But who really knows? Not me.

        • Jack ruby

          Should be: “..you could bring up the close close connections between the intelligence services and elites in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (with their counterparts in the US)”.

        • lizard19

          no trap. I just think there is a lot of doubt, and for me that includes how many actual terrorists were involved on the planes.

          anyway, I’m really not interested in “going there”. I’m more interested in trying to understand why we, as a country, are involved in the wars we are in now, and about to be in.

          for example, the clusterfuck Afghanistan war, which was never originally billed as a war against the Taliban. why are we really there? was it to get the poppy crop going again, or to put troops where pipelines can be built, or to control the estimated trillion dollar mineral wealth, or as part of encircling the eventual target, Iran, or something else?

          who really knows? not me either. but keeping America safe from terrorists is pretty low on my list in terms of actual reasoning for over a decade of war.

          • Jack ruby

            Probably all of those things played some part. Although dont forget..Secretary Rumsfeld and many others did not want the US to be in Afghanistan (at least not for long or with much of a physical presence) they had already set their sights on Iraq and didnt want resources taken or distractions. Perversely they knew what a shit show it would be to try and occupy Afghanistan and from an imperial standpoint it does not have the ‘benefits’ of occupying Iraq. (funny i know)

            I think part of the reason we have been there so long is intertia really. I dont think anyone with knowledge ever really honestly believed we would ‘succeed’ in Afghanistan (define that how you will) but once we got in none of our political leaders wanted to be the one have to admit this reality and the pull the plug. To be the one who the other party would claim “lost” afghanistan. The war was just small enough and the American people still dazed enough by 9/11 & distracted by Iraq that there hasn’t been enough vocal consensus in the public to make them step up and put an end to it. Plus the military puts up their own bureacratic roadblocks to ending it. The name of the book escapes me but the last one by Woodward I believe on Obama and the Afghan surge makes it pretty clear (if you believe the accounts) that the generals were doing everything in their power to not even give Obama the option of withdrawing troops.

  8. It’s time to Bring our Troops Home NOW. But we have to do something. Take a minute and sign the petition at http://www.EndTheAfghanWar.com/ I’m a Wisconsin grandmother and created this website because enough is enough

    • lizard19

      thank you JoAnn, and good luck. the “NOW” part is a little difficult during an election year, but everyone keeps saying Obama will suddenly become more sensible with a second term.

      I don’t think that’s the case, but hope springs eternal, right?

      • Steve W

        Clinton didn’t become better during his second term. it was just more of the same neo-liberal acquiescence to corporate domination.

        Also known as “Republican Light.”




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