An Open Letter to Gary Marbut
by lizard
Hey Gary!
I thought about writing you a letter today, because I think there might be an exciting opportunity for you. I know some people think you are a terrible, horrible, gun-crazed fanatic who would exploit the violent death of children to further your agenda, but I think that’s an unfair characterization.
These tragedies get consumed and spit back at us in all sorts of awful ways by the media and those obscene carneys referred to as “politicians”. Your zealous advocacy is a convenient target for those on the other side of the political gridiron, people who need people like you, so they don’t have to think about their guy blowing up children in Yemen.
The opportunity I envision is an op-ed where you remain steadfast in your vigorous defense of the right to take down the federal government through force of arms own guns, but, and this is just a suggestion, make one small acknowledgement: saying shit like this is unacceptable:
“When the top AP Nazis end up floating face down in the river, they will think twice about f***ing with real Americans.”
“We need to track down and publish the names and addresses of AP executives, photographs of their children and the routes they take to school.”
I get being frustrated with media (like allowing an intern a front page story where she can’t even get basic facts right and conflates two unrelated stories), but these reported threats against AP reporters for attempting to access what use to be public information about concealed carry permit holders, threats that reference innocent children, that is clearly over the line.
So take a stand, Gary, and show your detractors that you possess a smidgen of reasonable awareness that some things are just wrong.
—Liz
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August 7, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Why stop with the publication of CCP holders?
How about Medical Marijuana users? DUI offenders? Welfare recipients? AIDS test applicants?
Or, how bout minding your own f’ing business?
August 7, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Biggy Jo, don’t you think Nazis (Lizards’s suggestion) and gun control go together? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5-fr33RQ6s
August 7, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Like Jews and boxcars.
August 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
you are getting ahead of yourself. I assume you see Tim Fox’s decision as a win regarding this issue. so how about taking a win with a little more tact, and proclaim the retaliatory attempt to threaten and intimidate people’s children is over the top.
again, just a suggestion.
August 7, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Just a thought, possibly all of this is in reaction to what the hacker Anonymous did to various police officers in publishing their personal information, and what Occupy Wall Street types did to bankers exposing their personal information.
August 7, 2013 at 9:24 pm
I’m not comfortable with those examples either, though I’m not aware of any “outings” from those groups specifically targeting children and advocating murder.
August 7, 2013 at 9:35 pm
When hundreds of people show up at a personal residence, families and children are directly and personally affected. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/16/class-warfare-hundreds-pr_n_578015.html
My point was to consider the precedent created by the activist Left for the commentary aimed at the AP.
August 7, 2013 at 9:47 pm
the precedent for how angry groups of people express that anger goes back a bit further than protests against bankers. but you are of course correct, there is a personal affect, like the reference your link mentions: one child was awoken early.
August 8, 2013 at 8:17 pm
So let me summarize. Saying we should shadow AP reporters kid’s school routes in some comment section is as bad as physically following up on the threat, getting into your car to travel to some bankers house that you disagree with.
August 8, 2013 at 8:26 pm
so let me summarize. reporters asking for information that use to be public is as bad as engaging in systemic corruption that sparked an economic crisis that is still ongoing.
August 8, 2013 at 9:18 pm
So reporters can’t possibly be systematically corrupt? Biased? Bury information and expose others for political gain?
August 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm
of course they can. it’s a matter of scale.
August 8, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Did you not listen to Fox’s 8/6 interview with Dan Boyce? He did, in fact, strongly condemn the threats.
http://www.kufm.org/post/ap-reporters-threatened-after-requesting-concealed-carry-permit-information
August 8, 2013 at 8:27 pm
I did not, thank you for the link.
August 7, 2013 at 9:20 pm
The one thing that Marbut and I can agree on is this:
“We will not go gently . . .”
This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.
But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.
And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.
— Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the “Socialism of Imbeciles” and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008
August 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm
to fight those bloody collectivists how many people do you think you’ll need?
August 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
3%.
August 7, 2013 at 9:31 pm
I haven’t seen the updated Red Dawn film, but Encore has been playing the crap out of the original.
August 9, 2013 at 7:08 am
Don’t bother with the new one it’s awful.
August 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm
That was very agile, Liz. I didn’t think you could work Obama hatred into a post about Marbut, but you did!
August 9, 2013 at 1:09 am
Par for the course, I’ve yet to understand the Liz mans schtick. He’s against everything espoused by everyone and really hasn’t come up with an alternative.
That’s the beauty of trolling on the intrawebs, a few people will take you seriously, in his case it’s not many but for the present freedom of speech is in order. Rock on LIz.
August 8, 2013 at 5:08 pm
If I were conspiracy minded, I would point out that the quickest way to up the hit-counts of a website in the state of Montana is to go after Gary Marbut. I agree completely with your thesis, Lizard. But I have had a few too many people tell me that nothing is ever what it seems in presentation.
August 8, 2013 at 7:31 pm
I wonder if anyone has bothered to ask the current Governor and former Democrat AG if he ever received any requests for the same information and if so, what he did? Perhaps the AP asking is not an isolated incident in Montana history. I have never heard of the information being released to any of the press, but was the AP’s request truly the 1st ever request in Montana?
August 8, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Those AP guys. We can trust them.
http://rare.us/story/associated-press-retracts-bogus-north-pole-lake-photo/
August 9, 2013 at 12:49 am
LOL, a cornerstone of journalistic integrity.
August 9, 2013 at 6:10 am
Oh, it gets better.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/08/08/Ap-increase-in-ue-claims-steady-jobs-gains
August 9, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Breitbart is better? You might want to think on that a bit, Swede.
August 10, 2013 at 8:53 am
Karma’s a bitch.
http://bearingarms.com/justice-editor-fired-after-publishing-gun-owner-map/