Exciting News for Republicans Who Hate Poor People

by lizard

I have some information that is sure to get Republicans excited, because it entails turning the screws on poor, destitute individuals who get the exorbitant base amount of $700 dollars a month in disability. If the social security administration figures out you, as a disabled individual, are homeless (not paying rent), then your check gets cut nearly in half, to around $400 dollars a month. And guess what, staying in a motel doesn’t count. Isn’t that fantastic?

So let’s say there’s a guy who spends over $200 dollars for the luxury of staying in a nasty motel room for a week, and when he doesn’t have that luxury, he’s pounding malt liquor and shitting himself in the alleys of downtown. This hypothetical dude gets his check slashed. Isn’t that just awesome?

This is clearly the fiscally responsible thing to do, like when Montana Republicans denied their poor constituents that evil government plan to expand medicaid. Poor people are really taking advantage of us taxpayers, and we are lucky to have Republicans looking out for us, keeping the entitled poor in check.

And then there’s food stamps, where poor people are eating like kings, like surfer dude Jason Greenslate eating lobster. Can you believe that? 47.5 million Americans surfing and eating lobster. America has truly lost its way.

Please, Republicans (especially you assholes reaping farm subsidies) believe everyone on food stamps is Jason Greenslate, and stay far away from people like Bill Moyers, because if you expose yourself to Moyers’ blowing up 6 myths about food stamps, then you might have a crisis of conscience, and we wouldn’t want that.

No, fiscally responsible Republicans who never take government handouts, we definitely wouldn’t want that.

  1. As a Republican, and therefore a hater of the poor by default in the mind of Lizard, let me try to shed some light.

    Lizard’s premise is simple- More money into the hands of the poor reduces homelessness and poverty, therefore those who do not support more financial support hate the poor.

    The problem with this assumption is that it is too simplistic. It takes into consideration only material concerns, and not the soul of the poor. It also assumes that there is no connection between poverty, homelessness, and substance abuse.

    This shallow thinking I can only suspect comes from a lack of experience in working with the poor.

    The fact is that substance abuse is rampant among the poor and the homeless. It is a huge factor in their troubles. More money into the hand of the alcoholic ends up in more liquid poison in their system. I assume that Lizard’s intentions are good, and that he doesn’t want this. I also know that he doesn’t what people to to be poisoned to death.

    A government system has a very difficult time caring for the real issues involved because they are so complex. How can government programs protect people from themselves? What these poor people need is more lasting relationships with people who care, but the homeless fear these relationships because they threaten their chemical addictions.

    Therefore, using simple behavioral theory, if we reward the homeless with extra money on condition that they have a permanent residence, we encourage the enduring relationships which naturally occur when someone stays in one place. This is a better policy, but still not the solution. Jesus is the solution.

    Jesus said, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
    (Matthew 22:39 ESV)”

    But you can only love yourself if you love your creator.

    Jesus said, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.This is the great and first commandment.”
    (Matthew 22:37–39 ESV)

    The only way you can love your creator is if you know his deep self sacrificing love for you in Jesus Christ who gave up all to die on the cross. “We love because he first loved us.”
    (1 John 4:19 ESV)

    Sorry, but simplistic money solutions, particularly when they are tied to bureaucratic government programs is not love, but too often part of the problem. Just look at the rampant alcoholism of the former Soviet Russia. Government handouts drive people to substance abuse because they lack the one thing necessary- love.

    • JC

      “This shallow thinking I can only suspect comes from a lack of experience in working with the poor.”

      Talking about your own thinking and experience I reckon, because all of your reasoning is just so wrong.

      Liz’s premise is not that more money is good. It’s that all people deserve to be treated equally. Just because one person on disability is homeless or living in a motel doesn’t mean they deserve less of a payment than a person who has a home.

      Do you believe in equality and justice, Rev? Or do you believe it is ok for republicans to decide on social benefits based on morality? Because treating diseases like addiction and mental illness as a moral problem will always lead to the wrong “solution.”

      • You said, “It is that all people deserve to be treated equally”

        If this was Liz’s premise he probably should have used the word equal in his post.

        But even this premise is wrong. You must make a distinction between equality of the person, and equality of behavior. It would be unjust to treat the criminal and the victim the same. Good government rewards good behavior and punishes wrong doing. All people are created equal and bear the dignity of God’s image, but each of us behave differently and must not be treated equally.

        “Because treating diseases like addiction and mental illness as a moral problem will always lead to the wrong “solution.””

        Tell that to the half dozen recovering alcoholics in my congregation. This is a manifestly false statement in the case of addiction. Mental illness is different, but I don’t believe anyone knows enough to say that there isn’t a moral component in some or even all cases. I suppose it depends on your definition of who is mentally ill.

        But of course if you assume the universe is amoral then morality is always a problem. Don’t think too long on this, you may go crazy ;^)

        • Steve W

          Rev, You speak as if you never even read the Sermon on the Mount. Shame on you!

          I know more about your religion than you do and I’m not even a Christian.

          Unless your religion is the Republican Party, of course. That would explain it.

  2. It’s unfortunate that anyone wanting to throw their hat in the ring and attempt to change some of these things has to raise $5,000 first before they can even file the necessary paperwork to run.

    Government by the rich, for the rich. (I guess that’s hotel owners in this case)

  3. lizard19

    Reverend, thank you for reading and commenting.

    first, I suggest you look into the housing first model. not only is this the more humane way to approach homelessness, it also has the potential to greatly reduce the cost of over-utilizing emergency rooms, jails, and prisons, where folks with chronic issues, like alcoholism and mental illness, are often warehoused.

    and I don’t think all Republicans hate poor people, but this post is for the ones who do have very skewed perceptions of poverty, like you apparently do by perpetuating the stigma that poor people are more likely to be addicts and alcoholics. substance abuse problems impact people across the socioeconomic spectrum, it’s just with poor folks, especially people on the streets, it’s more visible.

    and with our jails, if you have money, you can afford bail and the mandatory classes. if you don’t have money, you languish in jail, so our allegedly “innocent until proven guilty” idea is thrown out the window for our country’s impoverished citizens, and because of policies promoted by Republicans, like tax cuts for the wealthy, the number of impoverished people is going up.

    to be fair, the policies of Democrats are really no better since the Clinton sell-out of the 90’s.

    I do agree people need more lasting relationships, and our faith-based community here in Missoula is taking on a much more substantive role with that, which I totally support.

    what I absolutely don’t support is slashing someone’s disability check because they can’t access a rental.

    like I indicated in my previous post, there is an economic war being waged by the privileged few against the rest of us, and because money has corrupted our representative government, we don’t have much recourse. instead, more and more Americans are becoming collateral damage.

  4. Lizard,

    Thank you for your persistence. You are right, indifference is no better than hatred when it comes to abusive policies directed at poor people. Neither party has any idea how bad things have gotten. With a growing number of poor people and a shrinking number of “middle-class” people things could get interesting in a hurry if something doesn’t give. Maybe that’s been the plan all along.

  5. Big Swede

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
    — Thomas Jefferson

    • larry kurtz

      I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

      Thomas Jefferson

    • lizard19

      I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

      –Thomas Jefferson

      • Big Swede

        Free market capitalism can be defined as “a system wherein individuals are free to pursue their own interests, make voluntary exchanges, and hold private property rights in goods and services.” Allowing consumers and producers to trade at mutually agreed upon prices, free market capitalism is a system characterized by voluntary rather than coercive exchange. In such a system, the role of government is limited: protecting individuals’ basic rights to life, liberty, property, and association; providing a legal system for the enforcement of contracts; and defending individuals against internal and external threats of physical force.

        By contrast, whether referred to as cronyism, corporatism, mercantilism, liberal fascism, or venture socialism, crony capitalism is simply the cooperation of government and business. While this cooperation benefits the involved business and politician(s), it generally hurts the politically and corporately unconnected. Furthermore, the power and benefits of crony capitalism can often lead to corruption, a fact which James Madison recognized when he stated, “Wherever there is an interest and power to do wrong, wrong will generally be done, and not less readily by a powerful & interested party than by a powerful and interested prince.”-Intellectual Takeout.

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