A Possible Outbreak of Democracy in Eastern Ukraine?

by lizard

Democracy is something we Americans are allegedly in possession of, and it’s such a great form of political participation that some people argue America can improve the world by exporting this amazing thing called Democracy to other countries.

As reports of Gaddafi bombing his own people came in during March of 2011, The Polish Wolf mentioned America’s commitment to Democracy in a brief post titled On the table?:

Apparently that’s where we are keeping all our options currently. There is talk of a no-fly zone, because it is known that Gaddafi has bombed the opposition and will probably do so increasingly as things become more dire for him. The US has moved assets into the area, but it’s unknown whether we’ll have to use them.

I can see both sides – on the one hand, we certainly don’t want foreign intervention to undermine the populism of the revolt and taint any future regime with the scent of imperialism.

However, the West has clearly thrown their collective hats in with the opposition. If they are crushed, there is no reconciliation possible with Libya for years, probably decades. Moreover, Libya is neither Egypt nor Tunisia – the forces arrayed against the opposition are not an army of the people but a network of secret forces and mercenaries. More people have already died in Libya than in Tunisia and Egypt combined. What would it say about our commitment to Democracy if we watch from our aircraft carriers, loaded up with jet planes, as pro-Democracy forces are bombed and massacred?

This is interesting to bring up in the context of Ukraine, a country where the West has clearly thrown their collective hats in with Neo-Nazi Fascists who exploited a sniper turkey shoot to enact a coup in Kiev.

I’ll transpose the same logic PW uses above for Ukraine: if the Federalists in Eastern Ukraine are crushed, then there will be no reconciliation possible with Ukraine for years, probably decades. I will also point out that the forces arrayed against the opposition are not an army of the people but a network of secret forces and mercenaries.

There were votes cast yesterday in Eastern Ukraine. Of course they won’t be taken seriously, but there are some actual mainstream news reports that there is wide support for more autonomy from Kiev expressed by Eastern Ukrainians.

Moon of Alabama has another great post with links, titled Ukraine: Serious Media Confirm Donetsk Poll Results (if the post appears in an awkward format, try the main page).

If these reports are true, then it sounds like some primo Democracy is happening in Eastern Ukraine. I have no idea the necessary contortions it will take for someone like the Polish Wolf to justify continued violence from fascist thugs against Eastern Ukrainians who want more autonomy in how their lives are governed. Maybe PW can take a break from Facebook and write up something at Intelligent Discontent to enlighten us.

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