Missoula Ebola Bed Count: One, Maybe Three
by lizard
Rachel Maddow tonight reported on the bed capacity for Ebola treatment in America: nine. Of those nine beds, St. Pats in Missoula has one. Our bed count in Missoula could be increased to three, with more staff, reports Rachel Maddow.
I’m worried. The pressure to shutdown travel will increase, and shut down means accelerating the spread in Africa as people go to non-travel-banned countries to flee while slowing aid workers from going in. Because incredibly brave people are willing to do that and being reactionary now for midterm elections is absolutely reckless.
I’m also obviously worried that our national response puts Missoula at direct risk.
So what’s the plan here?
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October 16, 2014 at 11:20 pm
take note, Bob Brigham, of this reporting by the Missoulian:
October 17, 2014 at 6:13 am
If Ebola had originated in Israel Europe and this administration would have shut down the flights upon the deaths of the first 50.
October 17, 2014 at 7:37 am
you are an idiot.
October 17, 2014 at 10:13 am
Did we or did we not shut down flights for political reasons just recently?
October 17, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Which right wing propaganda talking point are you trying to illuminate and catapult today, Swede?
What are you talking about?
This is a discussion about Missoula/Western MT and ebola. Please keep it focused, dude.
My microbiologist friend who works at the lab says a group have been studying ebola a long time. The lab already sent a team to Africa to aid primarily in diagnostics.
October 17, 2014 at 1:35 pm
This statement is what I’m concerned with SW.
“The pressure to shutdown travel will increase, and shut down means accelerating the spread in Africa as people go to non-travel-banned countries to flee”.
Am I permitted to address falsehoods?
October 18, 2014 at 10:28 am
Swede,You may or may not be permitted to address falsehoods, including yourself. How would I know your situation? You want to address yourself? Is that like circular verbal masturbation?
Just translate it first from the unrelated talking points. Two birds with one stone often results in no birds with one stone.
I see you are anti-freedom and advocating to restrict the movement of people.
That’s the way you always come down on every issue. You call for the most draconian and unworkable solution possible, and then whine about liberals when it fails.
You are both stupid and insane if you imagine you can go seal boarders in the bush. Fear makes people stupid and it drives them insane. Pull yourself together, man!
October 17, 2014 at 11:55 am
And I’m the idiot?
Your statement that shutting down travel will accelerate the spread of Ebola is false.
Africa itself is closing it’s borders and confining the outbreak.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_EBOLA_AFRICA_CONTAINMENT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-16-14-24-38
Apology not needed or expected.
October 17, 2014 at 3:43 pm
I’m not going to apologize for expressing the accurate description of you being an idiot.
so you think African countries can successfully close down their borders? what, with a fence? will they be as good as America is at keeping immigrants from coming across our border (note the sarcasm).
travel bans, closing borders, that won’t stop people from moving around. what it will do is provide incentive for people to lie and do other desperate things to escape hot spots. so yeah, travel bans and closing borders might appear at first glance to be necessary, but for those who actually try to use their brains to think, the reality is it won’t stop anything, it will just make it more difficult to get the resources to the areas that need it most.
October 18, 2014 at 9:42 am
Travel ban would have stopped Duncan and all the turmoil that he has created.
But hey, lets invite them all here. One of the first stops is Mizzo.
Maybe one of those nurses kids will sneeze in your boys cheerios at daycare.
October 18, 2014 at 10:26 am
How would it have stopped Duncan if he had first flown to, say France first and then entered the U.S.? Or given a flight ban out of the affected countries, took a bus or train to a non-affected country and then flew out?
And with a travel ban, how would U.S. citizens get out of those countries, accept in the same roundabout ways? Or how would it affect outside help — like from the U.S. military — wanting to go there to assist, but not being assured of how they’d legally leave?
Unfortunately, during the dumb season (lead up to the elections) everybody looks at it through a political lens, including those that want to dump some more on the administration just to help republican candidates.
There’s more than enough criticism due the administration without having to resort to peddling bad ideas: like the proposed trail “bans” which are unenforceable, have unintended consequences, and which hide real problems in this country which include lack of appropriate protocols, failure to follow good protocols, lack of training, lack of equipment, etc…
October 18, 2014 at 10:27 am
Oh, and I hear sheep can carry ebola, too. So you should be careful when you head out to the pasture with your velcro gloves and sheep cuffs to exchange bodily fluids.
October 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm
IMHO, for you or anyone to resort to name calling rather than critical thinking is idiotic behavior. I’m surprise that JC, working in the IT arena with compute viruses and such didn’t bring up the “layered defense” approach. BTW, there are many countries that require per-approved visas to travel to their jurisdictions. Passport control tends to be a checkpoint. As to aid workers returning from the “hot zone,” having them in quarantine for 21 days doesn’t seem to be overly burdensome. Ohio already has 7 people in quarantine. http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/10/16/health-official-on-ebola-7-quarantined-in-ohio/
October 18, 2014 at 7:25 pm
So Ohio isn’t shutting it’s boarders? Good. I knew shutting boarders was a stupid idea. Apparently Ohio agrees with me, Liz and JC. Not with Swede.
Citizens don’t need a visa to enter their own country, do they?
By the way, your characterization of the story doesn’t really reflect the content of the story. You might want to reread it because it has nothing to do with aid workers returning from the “hot” zone.
Here is an interesting article about a number of the quarantined people in the US and about their own situations. I don’t think anyone is opposed to quarantine, per se, even though it’s inconvenient, troublesome, and unfortunate.
But shutting down transportation and closing boarders is far different from screening arrivals and quarantining people known to have suffered possible exposure through close contact with ebola victims during the time they were contagious.
October 21, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Finally some gets it. http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/221385-ebola-travel-restrictions-imposed
October 19, 2014 at 6:33 am
Travel bans are inevitable. Either as a last minute “save” to at risk Dem incumbents or the threat of multiple lawsuits and costs incurred by Ebola laden air travelers.
Privately or by Governmental decree a couple more Duncans combined with chasing down of numerous passenger lists the flights will stop.
October 19, 2014 at 9:47 am
Yep, once the travel bans have been instituted, Homeland Security will have a lock grip on travel of citizens. Marshall law will have been fully deployed, and the people will be fully subjugated.
And here I thought you desired freedom!
October 19, 2014 at 10:10 am
Actually I’m more worried about this Adm. forcing private carriers to go pick them up.
October 19, 2014 at 10:32 am
The hits just keep coming.
“Washington, DC – Judicial Watch has learned that the Obama administration is actively formulating plans to admit Ebola-infected non-U.S. citizens into the United States for treatment. Specifically, the goal of the administration is to bring Ebola patients into the United States for treatment within the first days of diagnosis.
It is unclear who would bear the high costs of transporting and treating non-citizen Ebola patients. The plans include special waivers of laws and regulations that ban the admission of non-citizens with a communicable disease as dangerous as Ebola.”-Judicial Watch.
October 19, 2014 at 10:24 am
By the way JC, Chris Greene brings up homeland security in his rant along with fake beheadings, Africon, and our intents of world wide domination and population cleansing.
Mark T. basically offline so I’m filling in.
October 19, 2014 at 10:38 am
Great propaganda effort you are exerting Swede.
You are total spectrum lately.
October 19, 2014 at 11:17 am
Grassy knoll Steve.
Eyes on the grassy knoll.
October 19, 2014 at 9:48 pm
Nice conspiracy pivot, Swede.