A Montana Reaction to Ferguson

by lizard

There is something comforting for those of us who benefit from our white privilege in pointing out obvious racism, like the Whitefish “anti-racist” battle Cowgirl covered a few days ago. What I thought a bit curious was the first comment, from James Conner, who argues for a more tolerant approach to white supremacy:

Richard Spencer’s views are reprehensible. He’s also a law abiding resident of Whitefish. Trying to run him out of town because he holds unpopular beliefs is an act of intolerance, not love.

The situation is approaching a point where some will think it wise to erect on the city limits a sign saying “Welcome to Whitefish — but only if you’re a liberal.”

Before getting to Conner’s views on Ferguson, I’d like readers to give some thought to what constitutes a law abiding person of any municipality. To achieve this status, does that mean one never jaywalks? How about running a red light, or speeding? There are a lot of laws on the books. At some point, even the most diligent citizen will find himself/herself in non-compliance of some law.

I bring up petty offenses because the chain of events that led to Michael Brown being shot dead in the street by officer Wilson was a petty offense. Whether or not Wilson addressed the two black youth walking in the street in a civil, professional manner is still contested. But James Conner is satisfied with the decision by the jury, comprised of 9 white people and 3 black people, as evidenced by this post, titled Ferguson: so far, no injuries or deaths, just vandalism:

President Obama called for calm. So did Attorney General Holder. The people protesting the grand jury’s decision not to indict Darren Wilson paid the President and his chief law enforcement and civil rights officer no heed. They took to the streets with their matchbooks and hatchets, breaking windows, setting fires, not just in Ferguson, MO, but around the country. So far, no one has been injured or killed, but that luck probably won’t hold.

There was always the possibility that the facts of the shooting in Ferguson would support the policeman’s version of the events. That seems to be the case. Reports in the New York Times and elsewhere suggest that Brown, a powerful young man who stood 6-foot-four and weighed almost 300 pounds, had just robbed a convenience store, roughing up the clerk, then swaggered down the middle of the street, where, confronted by Wilson and told to move to the side of the road, he slugged Wilson through the police car’s open window. Wilson, fearing great injury to himself, shot Brown in the hand. A few tens of seconds later, Brown, apparently amok, charged Wilson, who shot Brown dead.

I doubt the fact that Brown was black and Wilson white had anything to do with how the incident went down; that Brown said to himself, “I’m gonna punch-out that honky pig,” or that Wilson said to himself, “Gonna kill me a nigger; self-defense.” Brown’s color didn’t matter. He was a huge person, belligerent and enraged, who stupidly provoked a life and death confrontation with a man with a gun. No one should be surprised at the outcome.

Now I don’t think James Conner is an obvious racist, but this three paragraph reaction to the rage being expressed over the non-indictment of Wilson reeks of white privilege and perpetuates a willful, ignorant denial of the racial aspects of this shooting.

Conner is echoing the depiction of Brown by Officer Wilson, who described feeling like a 5 year old holding on to Hulk Hogan when he grabbed Brown’s arm. James Conner describes “a powerful young man who stood 6-foot-four and weighed almost 300 pounds” because it’s that mortal fear of Brown’s physical presence, combined with the allegation (disputed) that Brown “charged, apparently amok”, that ultimately convinced the jury not to indict.

Not mentioned by Conner is that the other party in this fatal altercation, Officer Wilson, is also 6-foot-four, and was inside a sturdy police car with his gun when whatever physical altercation initially took place.

I can’t for the life of me understand how Conner can say he doubts the fact that Brown was black and Wilson was white had anything to do with how the incident went down. Wilson’s own words literally demonizes Brown, bestowing super-human strength on this 18 year old to bulk up after being shot to charge like some crazed animal.

These are Wilson’s own words:

“He looked up at me and had the most aggressive face,” Wilson testified. “The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that’s how angry he looked.”

James Conner is usually capable of reasoned analysis, but his response to what’s happening in Ferguson and across the nation is truly reprehensible.

Bob McCulloch, the prosecutor who chose to give his disastrous press conference Monday night, provided a perfect example of exactly what not to do if one doesn’t want to exacerbate an already volatile, racially charged situation. Maybe there would have been property damage anyway, but McCulloch’s prosecutorial defense of Wilson, and his calling into question certain witness accounts of what happened, guaranteed it.

Racism isn’t just the obvious white supremacist stuff. It’s also the privilege of a white guy in Montana saying Michael Brown being black had nothing to do with how this incident went down.


  1. JC

    Jonathan Cohn quotes a law professor from UC Davis:

    The prosecutor did err in his statement when he said “The duty of the grand jury is to separate fact from fiction.” The grand jury is obliged to determine whether there is probable cause, not what the actual truth is.

    Everybody has an expert to quote on the use of a grand jury in this instance. So I find it interesting that Conner resorts to calling the findings from the grand jury definitive in any sort of way:

    There was always the possibility that the facts of the shooting in Ferguson would support the policeman’s version of the events.

    So justice is not served when the american public think that the finding from the grand jury ascertains facts and guilt or innocence in the same manner as a criminal jury. It most definitely does not. Wilson is not exonerated here. He is just spared an indictment for the time being.

    He could again be targeted by a grand jury, have federal charges brought against him, or be subject to a civil suit.

    And Conner, who some think “is usually capable of reasoned analysis”, has been duped, as have the vast majority of the populace who do not understand grand juries, and think what has happened is definitive of guilt or innocence.

    A grand jury cannot prove guilt or uphold innocence, as a suspect maintains the presumption of innocence until convicted in a criminal trial. Wilson is no more innocent today than he was Monday.

    A grand jury should never replace a criminal jury to determine guilt or innocence. If we let them, then “justice” is meted out behind a shroud of secrecy. That’s the america we now live in… dark & shadowy, cloaked in hidden agendas, and full of ignorant people.

    • lizard19

      you are just a leftist clamoring for a show trial, right JC ;)

      • JC

        Seen plenty of show trials of leftists caught protesting. Actually, leftist enviros loves them some show trials!

        Might as well see one of a cop killing a kid. ;-)

  2. Wilson speaks.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-darren-wilson-testimony-20141124-story.html

  3. First death (murder?) at Furgie.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2849169/Ferguson-riots-claim-casualty-teenager-shot-dead-car-relative-says-somebody-killed-carnage.html

    And I wouldn’t classify burning a business to the ground as “vandalism”.

  4. Eric

    Liz – your outrage is misplaced on this one.

    I read through a lot of pages last night on Ferguson, and no matter what color the suspect was, this was a justifiable shooting.

    First, you don’t go steal tiparillos from a convenience store, and shove around the clerk. On tape, no less.

    Then, when an officer tells you to get out of the street, you nicely comply, you don’t tell him to F-off.

    Then, you don’t go over to the cop car, start punching the cop alongside the head, and then grab his pistol when he’s trying to get you to back off. The kids blood in the car proves where he was, and according to testimony, the pistol wouldn’t fire, just clicked the first two times, because they were wrestling hard enough over the pistol that the slide was pushed back a little.

    Then when it goes off, the bullet grazes his fingers/hand, and the kid had the good sense to get away from the car. And since the officers job is to stop criminals, he got out of the car, and went to apprehend him, and the kid turned around and charged him, and was nicked by a few bullets until a fatal shot to the head.

    These factors were all proven by witnesses and forensics.
    He wasn’t a Trayvon Martin, walking to his Dad’s house, he was an idiot.

    There was a guy claiming that the kid was laying on the ground, and the officer was standing over him – later recanted his story, said he didn’t see it, just heard about it.

    Another one said he was shot in the back, and then changed his story later when it mattered.

    So where’s the racism here Liz?

    Would the story be different if the kid was white, Indian, latino or Chinese?

    • lizard19

      I know it’s hard for some white people to see where racism exists, so let’s look at some numbers.

      in Ferguson, over 60% of the population is black, yet only 3 of the 53 police officers are black. in 2013, only 36 white people were arrested compared to 483 black people being arrested. in 2013, 92% of searches and 86% of car stops involved blacks.

      the jury was comprised of 9 white people and 3 black people. inconsistencies in Wilson’s testimony call into question Wilson’s credibility, for example Wilson stated Brown ran 30-40 feet away, then rushed him. Brown’s corpse was actually located 150 feet away from the police cruiser.

      the racism in Ferguson is institutional and ongoing.

      • I’m sure you realize there’s certain requirements to become a police officer. A high school education, able to pass certain physical and psychological tests, no criminal record and drug free.

        Feel free to ignore this, I just wanted to give the other readers here a heads up.

        • JC

          “Certain requirements?” Really?

          According to an Associated Press survey last year, at least 30 states, including Montana, allow newly hired local law enforcement officers to hit the streets with little or no training.

          Good luck surviving an encounter with an untrained newbie policeman in the era of militarized policing.

        • We’d have better police officers if they had some basic education, at least better than our high schools offer, some basic physical fitness, and if they were regular pot smokers. Then maybe they’d stop harassing minorities.

  5. steve kelly

    “With such global events looming over us like mountains, nay, like entire mountain ranges, it may seem incongruous and inappropriate to recall that the primary key to our being or non-being resides in each individual human heart, in the heart’s preference for specific good or evil. Yet this remains true even today, and it is, in fact, the most reliable key we have. The social theories that promised so much have demonstrated their bankruptcy, leaving us at a dead end. The free people of the West could reasonably have been expected to realize that they are beset · by numerous freely nurtured falsehoods, and not to allow lies to be foisted upon them so easily. All attempts to find a way out of the plight of today’s world are fruitless unless we redirect our consciousness, in repentance, to the Creator of all: without this, no exit will be illumined, and we shall seek it in vain. The resources we have set aside for ourselves are too impoverished for the task. We must first recognize the horror perpetrated not by some outside force, not by class or national enemies, but within each of us individually, and within every society. This is especially true of a free and highly developed society, for here in particular we have surely brought everything upon ourselves, of our own free will. We ourselves, in our daily unthinking selfishness, are pulling tight that noose…” ©1983 by Aleksander Solzhenitsyn

    http://www.roca.org/OA/36/36h.htm

    Spiritual impoverishment is an equal opportunity stumbling block. Thankfulness begins with understanding the spirit in all life. Black Friday approaches. What else needs to be said.

    • The Furgie rioters are boycotting Black Friday.

      They’ve all ready sacked up their presents.

  6. lizard19

    James Conner is deeply troubled that us leftists are “clamoring” for a show trial. here is a portion from his latest post:

    As protests against the Ferguson grand jury’ decision not to indict Darren Wilson, the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, continue across the nation, an ugly and deeply troubling argument is emerging on the left: not indicting Wilson cheated America, and especially Brown’s supporters, out of a public trial.

    Those making this argument assert the prosecutor’s job was to present only evidence that supported an indictment, so that Wilson could be put on trial and the facts of his encounter with Brown evaluated in public instead of in the secrecy of a grand jury’s proceedings. They believe the grand jury, hoodwinked by a pro-police prosecutor, usurped the public’s right to a public trial.

    Consider that a moment. A grand jury has the right and responsibility not to indict if it believes the evidence does not support a conviction. The leftists clamoring for a trial of Darren Wilson reject that proposition. They want Wilson charged with a crime and put on trial even if the evidence is too flimsy to support a conviction. They want a show trial, because they know that the expense and stress of a trial, even a trial ending in a not guilty verdict, would injure Wilson. They would indict a man for whom evidence to convict was lacking just so they could see him sweat in the courtroom. That’s how they would punish Wilson for killing Brown.

    That’s not justice. That’s a betrayal of justice, an attempted lynching.

    yes, Conner uses the term “lynching”. what an asshole.

    • Conner writes from his little guard house, too arrogant and insecure (I repeat myself) to engage people on his own blog. He’s no genius, has no particularly useful insight. He’ll be supporting Hillary these coming two years (yawn). I know that about him even without thinking much about it. He is that predictable.

      Why does he get a forum here as well, his words repeated as if they had any importance?

      • lizard19

        why do you engage Swede?

        • Good point, but not quite touche’. Swede puts himself out there for engagement. And yes, I am weak.

          Conner is nestled away in an Ivory Tower, annoying as hell. But people who do that know more than they let on about themselves.

          • lizard19

            I thought his reaction was worth bringing attention to.

          • You’re fine, I’m being petty. Sorry.

    • JC

      Actually, it’s much worse than calling it a “lynching.” Conner said of “hardline leftists”:

      “Stalin would recognize the tactics.”

      He is equating the state of the left with Stalinism. He’s definitely gone off the deep end here.

      I might remind him that the state of his moderate middle is reminiscent of the Stasi. We are being heavily spied upon, our civil liberties trampled, and citizens murdered by the government without due process, by the Obama administration. But I don’t see the left renditioning cops and oligarchs in the middle of the night to behead them… yet.

      And all of his ranting is just a bunch of hysteria and hyperbole about the motives and mindset of other people. It would be incredibly laughable, if not so tragic.

      • He moves in and out with the tides, never exercising his brain to move independently of the larger forces that guide his thoughts. He’s a tool.

      • Damn! where is my head at? I blew the metaphor. He’s not a “tool.” He’s in a rowboat without oars.

      • JC

        I might add, directly to Conner (as he’s been lurking around here, no doubt) that without Stalin, Hitler would have overrun western Europe, and most likely attacked the U.S. directly.

        Stalin may have been a brutal man and a communist (not to mention imprisoning my father-in-law for 5 years after WWII). But he saved the world from a Hitler victory, and even my German partner is grateful for that.

        Invoking Stalin as a backhanded way to shame and indict the american left smacks of McCarthyism. Who woulda thunk that the liberal rump party of Conner’s ilk would be the one to resurrect McCarthyism in the 21st Century?

        Actually, the american left could learn a lot about the perseverance of Stalin in the face of fascism, and use it to defeat the creeping fascism that is infesting europe and america today.

        • The UN routinely resolves to combat resurgent Nazism …“…combating glorification of Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance”.

          The US and Canada routinely vote against the resolution. I do not pretend to understand these behaviors. It just looks odd that they do this, especially a non-binding resolution where it would be very easy to fake it.

          And before we praise Stalin too much in his defense of his homeland against the Nazis, remember that Germany feared an attack and wanted to head it off before it happened. That war was inevitable, and had one side not started it, the other would have. Neither side is above the fray.

          But I lay most of the blame for World War II on the doorstep of Downing Street, as British factions at that time were intent on a war, wanted the French to fight it for them, and when France folded set out by any means possible to bring the US into it. Hitler repeatedly put out peace feelers, as he felt that Germany would not be able to manage Britain’s empire, and thought that were Brittan to go down, it would cede to the US and Japan, a bad outcome in hims mind.

          But with every attempt at peace, Churchill sent bombers in reply. We are taught to hate Hitler and all he stood for, and indeed he was a Napoleonic figure, bring both victory and disaster to his people. But on top of my list of favorite war criminals sits Churchill.

  7. Turner

    I’m trying to think what I would’ve done in Wilson’s place. If a large, dangerous-looking person approached my squad car and reached through my window to do me harm, my first impulse would’ve been to gun the car to get free of him. I would’ve stopped the squad car twenty yards or so away from him, gotten out with my weapon drawn (in case he had a gun or knife on him), and approached him. If he moved toward me in a threatening manner, I’d either mace or stun-gun him.

    If, for some reason, macing and stun-gunning didn’t stop him, I might shoot him in the leg or foot.

    Of course, I’m not 6’4″ and 210 pounds like Wilson. If I were I might try to subdue him physically.

    Do police procedures require shoot-to-kill only? If so, they need to be changed.

  8. For most of the last two days, I’ve been reading ‘people’ (always white guys, strangely) defend the GJ ruling with an appeal to ‘the law’. Yet almost every time, just like Eric above, they bring up an unrelated alleged crime as somehow justification that the ‘law’ was served. Whether Brown committed petty larceny or not, it has NO RELEVANCE to the ‘law’ of this case. They conveniently forget that Wilson didn’t accost Brown over stolen cigars, or even attempt to arrest him for it. Wilson yelled at Brown to get out of the street (a death sentence worthy offense, apparently.) Not one of these white guys pays attention to ‘the law’ when it comes to smearing the character of a dead man.

    What aggravates me the most about Conner’s ‘rebuttal’ is the smug assurance that “justice” was served simply because a decision was made, and all who disagree simply want the entertainment of a “public trial”, a “lynching”. There are times I greatly respect Connor’s opinion, but here he’s just being a myopic jackass. He’s whiteman-splaining away the real cause for outrage. For walking in a street and not showing due deference to being hassled for it, Michael Brown is dead. That ain’t justice and not by a long shot. He never got a trial, so there is no ‘justice’ there. Wilson, on the other hand, was afforded testimony before a grand jury. That jury was not selected to hear his case; they were formed for another crime. The investigation itself was as secretive as possible. The ‘prosecution’, and I use that term very loosely, spent as much time in front of the public eye DEFENDING Wilson as attempting a due prosecution. There is no evidence whatsoever of a zealous defense of the interests of the state, which is actually a prosecutor’s job. A trial jury would have assured the public that Wilson was not guilty. The Grand Jury simply assures us that the state likely wouldn’t get a conviction. How in the hell does that assure anyone that ‘justice was served’. We don’t even know the jury tally. What we do know is this: a guy who saw himself as a 5 year old in the face of an angry Pro-wresting demon gets to kill a young man without the state, the law, having it’s real say. Oh, and we know that Conner will sleep better at night knowing that justice was served.

    It is disturbingly easy for folks like our friend from the Flathead to dismiss outrage because people want a show, almost as disturbingly easy as it is for others to dismiss the rioting and outrage because *those people* are just that way, buncha savages. I take a slightly different view. A group of people who have been consistently told and shown that the law does not serve to protect them are now being told that they should support the law as it protects those ‘who really matter’.

    • ‘Sorry for the lengthy comment.

      • Eric

        Rob, even in Bozeman if you go up to a Police Officer in a car, start punching him through the window, and wrestling for his pistol, I think you have a better-than average chance that you will be shot. Do you disagree?

        Have you read through any of the evidence the Grand Jury saw?

        The forensics?

        The most credible eye-witnesses, who just happen to have black skin color, who corroborate the officer?

        Why would you think that a trial, costing huge amounts of money, would have had a different result?

        I personally couldn’t care less about people tearing up their own neighborhoods in Missouri – but it seems amazingly stupid for people to get fired up about Ferguson, because they’re so preoccupied by race, that they can overlook the facts.

    • Some people express deeper thoughts in lengthier comments, and there is no problem with that. The fact is however that most people skim and avoid lengthy ones. As a blogger I am repeatedly reminded to keep it short, but dammit, I ain’t that good.

  9. steve kelly

    “Yes, we are the enemy. As I point out in my book A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, since those first towers fell on 9/11, the American people have been treated like enemy combatants, to be spied on, tracked, scanned, frisked, searched, subjected to all manner of intrusions, intimidated, invaded, raided, manhandled, censored, silenced, shot at, locked up, and denied due process.” – John W. Whitehead

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40328.htm

    I would argue this condition existed long before 9/11. JFK, Kent State, RFK, Dr. King, Malcolm X, Japanese Americans in WWII, Salem witch hunts, Native Americans. That’s how Puritans roll.

  10. Pogo Possum

    Lizard, you do realize that you, J.C. and others are confirming Connor’s prediction about the expected reaction by the “Keepers of The Truth”:

    “Those who disagree that Michael Brown’s supporters were cheated out of a show trial will themslves be punished — denounced and figuratively tarred and feathered by the left’s self-appointed Keepers of The Truth and Guardians of Ideological Orthodoxy.”

    And by the way, while Brown’s initial strong arm theft from the convenience store may be considered a “petty offense”, Brown quickly escalated events without cause into felony assault on a police officer when he slammed officer Wilson’s car door closed, leaned in, began beating Wilson inside his police car and attempted to wrestle Wilson’s weapon from him.

    • lizard19

      Brown escalated events without cause IF you believe the testimony of Wilson, which I don’t. Wilson should have had to provide his testimony in a trial, where he could have been cross-examined.

      as for James, if he can’t handle someone criticizing his opinion, he shouldn’t be writing a blog. I’m not trying to punish him by, for example, taking his blog off our blog roll. I’m trying to articulate why race is a component of this case. only privileged white people are saying race had nothing to do with this case. are you one of those privileged white people Pogo?

      • These Democrats like Conner and Pogie are basically right wing authoritarians. I know that confuses people, but it is a very interesting phenomenon. The Mormon-like shunning behavior is just evidence of their need to block out dissent while at the same time completely submitting to authority … the Party. The whole thing is creepy, a little brown shirty.

        • larry kurtz

          Toke, you are a petulant, bitchy whiner who deletes dissenters: your attack on Conner and Don is just plain hypocrisy with a turd garnish.

        • I did delete your comments, and my what a good feeling that gave me. You were being childish, petulant, unreasonable and suffocating … There was no reaching you as you’re all balled up inside and seeming unable to express yourself without some outpouring of trivia written by someone else, but nothing from your head, your mind. You’re a lot like Kwyjibo in that regard. (I didn’t ban anyone – that is, it only lasted an hour or so).

          Bob Alteman, whose theories are not fully developed or explored as I see it, writes about what he calls the Wild Card authoritarian. The vast majority of authoritarians tend towards right wing political beliefs as it is there you find the structures that allow hierarchies to thrive. But they often pop up in left wing structures, in fact I am tempted to say always. The Democratic Party is a rigidly structured prison of sorts, and membership requires adherence to groupthink, so that when Lizard and JC went off the tracks here, so to speak, they were very quickly disciplined by the WCA’s in the party, Conner the first. It’s not based on any philsosophical ideal, as the party can be anything it’s leaders say (currently a right wing party), but rather adherence to groupthink. Conner and Pogie and Talbot are first and last party members and may spout some leftish beliefs now and then, but their bedrock message is groupthink submissiveness.

          The key to spotting the authoritarian in all settings is four simple words: Suck up, piss down.

          This is a long comment. I need to write about this phenomenon at my own blog, where it also will not be read.

          • larry kurtz

            *yawn*

          • I always have to chuckle when having exchanges with you and Kwyjibo that your attention span won’t allow anything beyond a sentence or two, but that you still think you got it going.

        • Pogo Possum

          Re: “ Democrats like Conner and Pogie are basically right wing authoritarians”

          Mark, just for clarification, if you are referring to me in your recent comment then you confused me (Pogo) for Mark Pogreba (Pogie). We are two completely different animals with very different political philosophies. I am not aware that Pogreba has posted on Ferguson.

          • Don Pogreba, Intelligent Discontent. I’ve dealt with him extensively over the years.

    • petetalbot

      Just a quick thanks to Pogo for the card. J.C., liz and I partook; the balance went to the Pov. Happy Holidays, Mr. Possum.

      • Pogo Possum

        Pete, glad it was put to good use. May you all enjoy the holiday weekend. I am off to cheer on the Griz.

  11. Pogo Possum

    Lizard, of course race is an element in what has and is transpiring in both Ferguson and around the country as evidenced by your accusing anyone who disagrees with your version of events as being racist.

    Here is a good analysis of why African Americans resent police in the racially divided neighborhoods surrounding the St Louis area:
    http://fusion.net/story/29321/11-background-details-that-explain-the-tension-in-ferguson-and-st-louis-county/

    Pay particular attention to items 8, 9 and 10 and the closing remarks:
    “When activists hit the streets of Ferguson and St. Louis in support of Brown, it is important to keep in mind that the stakes do not start and end with one case of a police-related shooting, though it might be the singular event that brought them into the streets. The relationship between people of color and authorities has long been strained, for some of the reasons listed above.”

    I kept an open mind on the Ferguson shooting when it was first reported and originally thought there might be merit to initial reports that Brown was shot by an overzealous young police officer while trying to surrender. The evidence revealed in the grand jury investigation made it obvious that was not what happened: Brown’s blood in officer Wilson’s police car, evidence Brown had his hand on Wilson’s weapon at some point, damage inside the police car clearly showing a severe struggle, bruises to officer Wilson’s face, arms and the back of his head indicating he had been assaulted, credible eye witness reports verifying Brown aggressively charged Wilson and ballistics reports that showed among other things that the witnesses testifying Brown was shot in the back or Brown was shot while on the ground were lying.

    The resentment of police after the shooting, the rioting, the anger of minorities toward others and even your own name calling toward anyone who disagrees with you is clearly based on racial issues. But I am not seeing any credible evidence that shows officer Wilson shot Brown because of race bias. Instead, I am seeing clear evidence that a young man robbed a convenience store and shoved a minority shop owner out of the way when he attempted to stop the robbery, that Wilson and his accomplice were walking in the middle of traffic obstructing traffic, that when officer Wilson instructed them to stop walking in the street Brown shouted obscenities at the officer,walked to his patrol car and slammed the police car door preventing the officer from getting out, leaned into the police car to punch the officer and struggle to take his weapon, was shot in the hand while leaning in the police car, and then after the officer exited the car to attempt to arrest him for felony assault Brown was shot and killed as he charged the officer as backed up by credible eye witnesses and ballistics evidence.

    While police officer Wilson’s shooting of Brown ignited a long smoldering firestorm, that does not take away the preponderance of evidence that shows this was not a race motivated shooting. You can’t accept that because it doesn’t fit with your preconceived ideas of white privilege and all police are racially prejudiced. Or as my old law professor used to say, “Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.”

  12. Craig Moore

    Perhaps your knee-jerk application of the racist label to others is born out of your own racist behavior. https://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/who-can-can-engstrom/

    Lizard–

    I know I was at a house party once, in the South Hills, and at this party I met a few Saudi exchange students. I got into an argument with one of ‘em on the back deck, a real arrogant prick. I found myself in the somewhat unique position of defending America, because this Saudi’s sense of entitlement to brazenly sample the freedoms he then turned around and arrogantly sneered at demanded a response, so I asked him if he would be able to blow coke (they were) and drunkenly grope American chicks (they did) back in his lovely country, or if Daddy just sent him to the states to get it out of his system before he got his cloaked servant. It came close to blows.

    • lizard19

      I’m also anti-American, anti-Semitic and a conspiracy theorist not to be taken seriously ;)

      • Craig Moore

        That explains how you view events and others through the lens of your own personal shortcomings and failings.

  13. I think we’re leaving out the fact that the Negro is a violent and dangerous species, innately. All should take care and caution when in the presence of one and a presumption of necessity should be applied to all that utilize deadly force when coming in contact with same.

    • Assuming you are not being sardonic, evidence of racial violence can be be found in the number of corpses produced, and the damned white people are the ones who have piled them up, to the moon even.

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